Articulate Presenter 13 - No Slide Numbers = Big Problem

Dear Articulate,
I would like to better understand the seemingly arbitrary decision to change slide numbering formats in Studio 13.  You have driven a barrier between quality control and external review through this simple change.


There is no longer any connection between the original working document and the output.
  Within Presenter, There is no way to indicate %currentSlide% of %totalSlides% so that reviewers, students and the community might easily inform developers.


Previous workflow:

  1. Reviewer: There is a problem on slide #x, #y, #z
  2. Developer: Opens PPT, scrolls to slides #x, #y, #5 and fixes problems.

Current workflow:

  1. Reviewer: There is a problem on slides 1.2.3,  3.2.1 and 4.3.2
  2. Developer: Opens/references published output, navigates slide 3.2.1.  Takes note of slide design and title. Note: Neither the reviewer nor developer cannot copy and paste the slide title.
  3. Developer: Opens PPT, searches for slide with a matching design and title. Fixes problem.
  4. Repeats steps 2 and 3 for every change.

Workaround:
1)    Remove slide numbering from the template
2)    Manually add slide numbers in the properties pane

Inserting slide numbers in PPT presupposes designs that accommodate it, zero full-slide images, and it creates a great deal of new work for people who have chosen to “upgrade” from Articulate 09, only to find that all of their presentations now require significant template modifications.  It also eats up valuable slide real-estate, it adds an additional on-screen variable, and of course these numbers aren’t searchable or indexed unless included in the slide notes.

Why isn’t there an indicator on the output that shows which slide viewers are on?  I know this is a feature request, but I want it visible so that others can reflect on how this might change their workflow.


We have taken a step away from a once simple process for what feels like arbitrary reasons.  In my (biased) opinion, it’s more difficult to find slides within a presentation – it feels less like a book and more like some frustrating legal document that happens to look nice but is frustrating to navigate. 

Regards,

-Greg

17 Replies
Tom Kuhlmann

The menu in Presenter is going to pull in the slide titles. If you have indented slides then they'll be identified by section and level. Thus the 1.2.1 type of numbering. You can turn off the auto numbering and the reviewer can reference the title of the slide they're viewing.

A simple solution to help reviewers and yourself:

  • Publish the course as Word and provide to reviewer to make notes. You get a storyboard with all the slides, numbers, and notes. Make that the review document. Any notes they have they can add to the document and forward to you. That's what I'd do.
Greg Atkinson

Ah, that's good to know.  Unfortunately that doesn't do much for quizzes, animations, videos, pronunciation of key terms, audio etc...the list goes on.  It's a good work-around for strictly content, but generally speaking most of the content QC has taken place by the time a script arrives.  Yes, we can reference slide titles...until there are two of the same slide titles, or until the slide titles become long and complicated, then you're including slide numbers or sections of the script..etc etc.  Wouldn't it just be easier to have the slide numbers available?

Again, it's an extra step that really takes away efficiency and functionality for seemingly no reason whatsoever.  Are there any measurable advantages to this numbering system that we've been forced into using? The feedback I've from an instructor thus far is that it will make their job more difficult (when there's relationships between online and offline content in a course after the publishing)

I don't intend to dispute or call into question your method of quality control, but surely you see the inefficiencies here?  Help me understand the value of this change.  Thanks for your prompt reply btw

Jada Olson

Just to throw in my $0.02, I'd be interested in this answer as well.  We've done quite a few courses now in '13 and reviews are really turning into an issue.  Frequently, our client reviewers don't have access to our working Powerpoints (it's something with their process and no, it's not something we can make them change) and with engage content, quizzes, etc, there's enough changes that using the source document isn't very helpful.  It's not too bad when it's a 30 slide course.  When it's a 150 slide course, we're running into some real communication challenges.  Any feedback would be most helpful.

Dave Neuweiler

I haven't tried it in '13, but in '09, I did a lot of presentations with slides hidden in presenter. This of course threw off the numbering between the menu pane and the source PowerPoint.

So for the review process, I included slide numbers in the PPT, and instructed reviewers to reference those when giving feedback. When the final review was completed, the slide numbers were turned off in PPT.

Of course quizzes and interactions had to be handled a bit differently, but it made the review process a lot smoother overall.

Greg Atkinson

In a matter of days, this is really going to hurt us with Q/C on any sort of audio and animations.  Tom your idea is great but that level of QC is usually done way in advance.  If there are any plans from the devs to turn back on the old referencing system please let us know.

This was a terribly shortsighted feature to remove (or implement), but call me biased...  function > aesthetics.

Christie Pollick

Hi, Marcelo -- 

Have you come across the following information? Please let me know if that helps! 

PowerPoint Slide Numbers Are Missing

PowerPoint's slide number placeholder is supported in Articulate Presenter. For it to work properly in your published course, the slide number placeholder must be placed in the slide master footer. Here's how:

  1. Go to the View tab on the PowerPoint ribbon and click Slide Master.
  2. Go to the Insert tab on the ribbon and click Slide Number.
  3. Mark the Slide number box and click Apply to All.

Marcelo G

So, for example, in my case:

1) I prepare a training course and give it to the client for review

2) I provide the word storyline so the client can add there any comments that he has about the content of the training course

Then they are not be able to match the storyline to the training course (as most of the content is engage interations and quizmaker quizes).

Is there any way to achieve something like this? What I have been doing is going through the storyboard and manually typing the menu numbers from the corresponding published training course (these courses are 100+ slides each). Thanks.