Quiz Maker slide notes not showing in Presenter

Hello Helene - that looks like a neat course!

Currently in Quizmaker '09 and Engage '09, the narration notes from your quizzes & interactions don't automatically appear in the sidebar of your Presenter player. If you'd like some text to appear there for your quiz or interaction, you would need to go to your quiz/interaction placeholder slide in your PowerPoint file, and add the text to the Notes pane on that slide. (If you already have the notes text within Quizmaker or Engage, you can do this fairly quickly by copying from Quizmaker or Engage and pasting into the PowerPoint notes pane)

If you have a lot of notes text to display (i.e., if you want to include text for each of your quiz questions or for each part of your Engage interaction), you can use formatting in the PowerPoint slide notes pane to apply different heading styles, which might make it easier for learners to follow along. This blog post contains some tips for customizing slide notes.

Hello Jeanette

Thanks for the quiz reply. 

I don't understand how I can have the notes for the question + the blank slide one for the correct feedback + the blank slide two for the incorrect feedback in one slide only in Presenter? I would need to do the branching outside of QM (tried yesterday also but it didn't work either - another issue )

The client asks for all the audio files to be in written form as well, so all my quizzes and all my feedback have text in the notes.

I love your post on making the notes look better but still don't understand why QM has a slide notes features if they can't appear anywhere in the final presentation???

Hi Helene, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were also wanting to display question feedback in your sidebar notes. I can see where that would be problematic if you didn't want users to see the feedback text prior to answering a question. Typically, when developers want to include sidebar notes for a quiz, they place just their question text in the notes, but not feedback text (else then users could scroll to the feedback and be able to anticipate the answers before answering the questions).

The notes feature in Quizmaker is primarily to allow for easier narration (i.e., a way to keep the narration script in front of you while recording).

Would your client find it acceptable to include only question text in the sidebar, and display the blank slide feedback text on the quiz slides themselves?

Jeannette my client will have to accept the limits of the tool he chose to use ...

If I manage to use the PPT slides as feedback slides instead of the blank slides in QM it might do the trick but that means I have to redo all my quizzes... and so far it didn't work for me (but that's another story!)

Thank you for your prompt suggestions, I certainly appreciate the community support for this tool.

Helene, how many quiz questions do you have in your quiz? There is a way to do what you have in mind, but it's slightly cumbersome because it would involve creating a separate quiz file for each question. But if you only have a handful of questions, it might be worth it to get the effect you're looking for. Is that something you'd like to explore?

Yes it is exactly what I have in mind (suggestion of another member yesterday). Most of the time I have only one question (my quiz is an activity to learn, not an assesment). I have 13 quizes but all with audio, pictures, etc. So I guess it will take 2 hours to redo them all (if it works!). Yesterday I've tried the branching outside of QM but it doesn't work if I don't use the Finish button (and I don't want to use it). 

So much to learn!

Ta!

LN

OK. Assuming you have 1 question per quiz, here is an approach you can try. I'd recommend doing this with a small prototype of 1 or 2 questions (rather than all 13 ) so that you can be sure that this approach will meet your needs.

Here's a published example of how it would behave, and below are the steps I used to create it. In the published example, note that the notes are different for each slide, but the feedback slides don't show up as menu items in the sidebar (so that users can't just click directly to the feedback without first answering the quiz question).

1. First set up your course's content slides in PowerPoint/Presenter, including any feedback slides that you want the learner to see after each quiz.
2. Now create a 1-question quiz. In Quizmaker, turn off both result slides. (Click Pass Result and unmark "Display passing result slide." Then do the same for Fail Result.)
3. Also in Quizmaker, go to Player Templates > Edit > Navigation and make sure the box called "Prompt to resume on quiz restart" is NOT marked. (This just ensures that if you redirect learners back to the quiz, it doesn't "remember" the results or outcome from the first time around.)
4. If you don't want pop-up feedback to display in the quiz question, in the question editor set the Feedback option to None.
5. Now add the quiz to Presenter. For the quiz properties within Presenter, set the "When user passes" and "When user fails" options to point to whatever feedback slide(s) you have set up for the correct/incorrect answer.
6. Also in the quiz properties within Presenter, for "User may attempt quiz," set the selector to "Just Once."
7. Repeat steps 2-6 for as many quizzes as you want to add to your course.
8. Now, in Presenter, go to Slide Properties. Wherever there is a feedback slide for an INCORRECT answer after a quiz, set the branching behavior so that the Next button goes back to the quiz slide.
9. Also in Slide Properties, right-click on each feedback slide and choose Hide In Navigation Panel. This keeps the slide (and the related slide notes) from displaying in the sidebar. This way, the only time users will see the slide notes for the feedback would be if they are branched to a feedback slide, based on how they answer a quiz question.

Anyway, I know it looks like a lot of steps, but I think this approach might give you what you need. :)

Also - attached is the source file of the published sample, in case you'd like to deconstruct it.

Wow thanks for the comprehensive explanation! I will try again now because I got everything correct apart from the point 3 and 6.

I have to complexify your model a bit because when they retry the quiz I want the question to be slightly different (no more audio file and straight to the question). But it should work!

It is a lot of steps but I hate it when the tool is forcing me to change my educational strategy!

Will keep you informed, I'm finishing with the rest of the edits first

Hi Jeannette

I searched for a long time why it was still not working in my course even though everything looked the same. I even created a new file myself step by step to see where the difference could be. And I FOUND OUT!

Turns out if your question in QM and your feedback slides are not at the same LEVEL in the branching (slide properties), it doesn't work!

Phew... I'm happy I solved this one and I hope it will save some time for the others.

Hi Helene - glad to hear you found a solution - thanks for letting us know!