Contents stucture

Hi everybody,

i have a problem with the course structure in moodle:

1) I created a (simple) course with Storyline and exported it + upload it in a moodle course

2) Display course structure is enabled and "to the side"

the result it this : QUESTION:

can anyone tell me why the middle menu (course structure - contents) is not visible ?

As you can see there is only a "Testings" entry in this menu. I want the menu to be with checkboxes for every content entity (Untitled Scene, slide no1, slide no2, slide no3 etc).

Any ideas ?

Thanks in advance!

10 Replies
Emily Ruby

Hello Marinos, and welcome to Heroes!

You can test this file in the SCORM Cloud, the industry standard in testing content, to see if you experience the same behavior.

You can also check out this article about troubleshooting your LMS.

i am sure there are others in the community who use Moodle, and may have some other ideas.

Marinos Giamaios

Emily Burnett said:

Hello Marinos, and welcome to Heroes!

You can test this file in the SCORM Cloud, the industry standard in testing content, to see if you experience the same behavior.

You can also check out this article about troubleshooting your LMS.

i am sure there are others in the community who use Moodle, and may have some other ideas.

Hi Emily and thanks for the reply. I tested the package in the SCORM cloud and it passed. I also tried different reporting and tracking settings and there is the same behaviour (still not showing all of the contents). Is it a moodle issue ? Or maybe an articulate one ?
Stephan Sinka

Marinos

The answer lies in the terminology. When in Storyline you create a number of slides and publish them as a SCORM package that is exactly what Moodle see's...a single package. Moodle can only tell you if that entire package has been visited(complete) or not ( check marks) based on what parameters you set in the reporting & tracking during publishing.

Inside of the Package, Storyline can show the individual pages in the menu ( if you choose to allow Storyline Player to show the menu) or you can create your own slide that tracks the participants progress using a variable( lots of idea's on the forums about how to do this).

I ran into a similiar concern with the "scenes" created in Storyline and wanting Moodle to track/ show the progress. The only solution I found was to publish each scene individually as separate SCORM Pkges and load them individually into moodle, That way when they complete a Scorum package it is marked complete on return to the Moodle course page.
Another option is to use what is called a  Simple SCORM Packager (SSP) it is a compliler program that can put all the individual SCORM packages into a single bundle. This bundle will show up in Moodle as Modules within a single course with the progress visible with check mark for completed and a half moon for started but incomplete. (but still not showing/tracking at the page level).

Check out Dave Moxon's page on SSP  http://daveperso.mediaenglishonline.com/2010/03/25/use-ssp-to-track-multiple-quizzes-and-courses/  if that is the route you wish to go.

Do let me know if you find another way to get Moodle to show progress as you described.

Best wishes

Stephan

Marinos Giamaios

Stephan Sinka said:

Marinos

The answer lies in the terminology. When in Storyline you create a number of slides and publish them as a SCORM package that is exactly what Moodle see's...a single package. Moodle can only tell you if that entire package has been visited(complete) or not ( check marks) based on what parameters you set in the reporting & tracking during publishing.

Inside of the Package, Storyline can show the individual pages in the menu ( if you choose to allow Storyline Player to show the menu) or you can create your own slide that tracks the participants progress using a variable( lots of idea's on the forums about how to do this).

I ran into a similiar concern with the "scenes" created in Storyline and wanting Moodle to track/ show the progress. The only solution I found was to publish each scene individually as separate SCORM Pkges and load them individually into moodle, That way when they complete a Scorum package it is marked complete on return to the Moodle course page.
Another option is to use what is called a  Simple SCORM Packager (SSP) it is a compliler program that can put all the individual SCORM packages into a single bundle. This bundle will show up in Moodle as Modules within a single course with the progress visible with check mark for completed and a half moon for started but incomplete. (but still not showing/tracking at the page level).

Check out Dave Moxon's page on SSP  http://daveperso.mediaenglishonline.com/2010/03/25/use-ssp-to-track-multiple-quizzes-and-courses/  if that is the route you wish to go.

Do let me know if you find another way to get Moodle to show progress as you described.

Best wishes

Stephan


Hi Stephan and thanks for the reply.

The truth is that i tried seperating the story into smaller scenes (individual .story files) but still it cannot give me what i want.

The problem is in the imsmanifest.xml file that Storyline produces. As i saw, the section in which the table of contents that Storyline produces contains only one entry which is of course the main problem:

I looked into another SCORM package that works perfectly fine on moodle and compared the two manifest files. For what i saw, there is the problem! That manifest file contains the structure (with the appropriate element tags).

So is there a way that we can create a different manifest file (compatible with the course) so that moodle can recognize each slide and NOT all of my course as a single SCO?

Marinos Giamaios

Phil Mayor said:

But your course is a single SCO, you would need to unbundle and publish separately and use simple scorm packager if you want anything meaningful in the moodle menu.

Most people just disable that menu

Moodle will not recognise individual slides as being viewed in the course structure


What i wanted was the menu looking like this :

Next to folder : Name of scene

    below folder : Name of slide (Which turns green when viewed).

So there is no way that Articulate Storyline produce this kind of multi-SCO itself ?

And also, if i want to create something like the above i will have to create a new ".story" for each slide and then repackage all of the ".story" files with SSP ?