Having seen Jeanette's two video's about customizing Invalid Answer Layout I've figured it out for Pick One style of Quiz and for a Freeform Drag and Drop but not for the pre-programed Drag and Drop or for the Word Bank.
The conditions that are :
Show layer Invalid Answer when the user clicks submit on the condition that Item one is in it's normal state or Item 2 is in it's normal state or Item three is in it's normal state
Submit Interaction MATCHING DRAG AND DROP when the user clicks the submit button
on the condition that Item one is not in it's normal state
Without seeing your file, it's hard to diagnose what might be happening. Are you able to share the .story file here for the community? Or if you'd prefer to send it privately, you can always send it to our Support team.
Hi Ashley! I've attached the .story file. It's totally stripped down because I just want to solve the problem before adding all of the design.
I've gotten both quiz types to the level that they both show the default Invalid slide AND the custom answer slide. Whenever I add the logic that says to use the custom slide when a,b and c are in 'normal' state, (changing both triggers) I lose ALL of the response boxes.
This is a good question, and I bet someone has an answer.
You may have noticed that, for example, on your "here is the solution" slide, the invalid message is hiding behind the default message. You can make this work for other types of quizzes where you can add a trigger for the custom invalid answer message and conditions for the default invalid answer message. This is what allows the custom message to show through - or not.
So, in a T/F quiz:
show the invalid layer when Leaner clicks Submit if T or if F = normal
submit the interaction when Learner clicks Submit if T or if F = selected
or, for Fill in the blank
show the invalid layer when Leaner clicks Submit if textentry equals blank
submit the interaction when Learner clicks Submit if textentry does not equal blank
or on a pick one
same idea as the T/F
But, there are no states empty text boxes for Matching Drag and Drops or Word Banks.
Hi Rebecca! Yes, I felt like a hero for getting both invalid response slides up (just behind the default is the goal...) But I haven't been able to get that one step further. Any help would be celebrated! Thanks.
Thanks for sharing the file, and my apologies for not getting to it sooner. As Becky mentioned, the matching drag and down and word bank don't have states for you to work with. I've played around with your file as well, and can't seem to determine a workable solution for what you're looking to accomplish. I'll keep my eyes peeled for similar posts in the community that are looking to accomplish the same as you'd like to set up. In the meantime, we'll see if anyone else chimes in on this post.
Ashley, tx for purusing this. Hoping someone will have a work around.
But in the meantime, Lucy, a number of us have requested that in the next release Articulate change their approach with Invalid answer and make it into a layer, like the Correct and Incorrect layers. If you'd like to see that, please add your voice here.
Thanks Becky for sharing the feature request link! Lucy, definitely chime in and add your voice, as our developers use all the feature requests to determine new features and prioritize them!
Thank you for sharing your Storyline file. I've tried using the triggers you shared, but the default invalid message still displays on top of the custom message. How did you get the custom feedback layer to only show? I couldn't find it in the file.
Taking a look at Hamdy's file - it looks like he has a few different ways that it's set up - and some work and some don't. So I'm not certain the behavior he was going for - did you take a look at the link I previously shared on how to set it up?
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Hi Lucy and welcome to Heroes!
Without seeing your file, it's hard to diagnose what might be happening. Are you able to share the .story file here for the community? Or if you'd prefer to send it privately, you can always send it to our Support team.
Hi Ashley! I've attached the .story file. It's totally stripped down because I just want to solve the problem before adding all of the design.
I've gotten both quiz types to the level that they both show the default Invalid slide AND the custom answer slide. Whenever I add the logic that says to use the custom slide when a,b and c are in 'normal' state, (changing both triggers) I lose ALL of the response boxes.
Thanks for your help! Lucy
Hi Lucy,
This is a good question, and I bet someone has an answer.
You may have noticed that, for example, on your "here is the solution" slide, the invalid message is hiding behind the default message. You can make this work for other types of quizzes where you can add a trigger for the custom invalid answer message and conditions for the default invalid answer message. This is what allows the custom message to show through - or not.
So, in a T/F quiz:
show the invalid layer when Leaner clicks Submit if T or if F = normal
submit the interaction when Learner clicks Submit if T or if F = selected
or, for Fill in the blank
show the invalid layer when Leaner clicks Submit if textentry equals blank
submit the interaction when Learner clicks Submit if textentry does not equal blank
or on a pick one
same idea as the T/F
But, there are no states empty text boxes for Matching Drag and Drops or Word Banks.
Does anyone have a solution for this?
Hi Rebecca! Yes, I felt like a hero for getting both invalid response slides up (just behind the default is the goal...) But I haven't been able to get that one step further. Any help would be celebrated! Thanks.
Hi Lucy,
Thanks for sharing the file, and my apologies for not getting to it sooner. As Becky mentioned, the matching drag and down and word bank don't have states for you to work with. I've played around with your file as well, and can't seem to determine a workable solution for what you're looking to accomplish. I'll keep my eyes peeled for similar posts in the community that are looking to accomplish the same as you'd like to set up. In the meantime, we'll see if anyone else chimes in on this post.
Hi Ashley and Lucy,
Ashley, tx for purusing this. Hoping someone will have a work around.
But in the meantime, Lucy, a number of us have requested that in the next release Articulate change their approach with Invalid answer and make it into a layer, like the Correct and Incorrect layers. If you'd like to see that, please add your voice here.
Thanks!
Thanks Becky for sharing the feature request link! Lucy, definitely chime in and add your voice, as our developers use all the feature requests to determine new features and prioritize them!
Hi Ashley , Lucy and Rebecca,
i solve this problem with in the attachment.
Hi Hamdy,
Thanks for sharing that here, and there is also a further description of how to set up your own custom invalid answer text here.
Hi Hamdy,
Thank you for sharing your Storyline file. I've tried using the triggers you shared, but the default invalid message still displays on top of the custom message. How did you get the custom feedback layer to only show? I couldn't find it in the file.
Thank you-
Becky
Hi Becky,
Taking a look at Hamdy's file - it looks like he has a few different ways that it's set up - and some work and some don't. So I'm not certain the behavior he was going for - did you take a look at the link I previously shared on how to set it up?
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