Lesson Status - Turn off - What is this?
Dec 15, 2014
I have 6 modules in 1 course and a questionaire in each module,I have put it in LMS and when I answer all questions wrong it says I have completed.
I have had an email back from the LMS team saying the below and I am not sure what that means or what i need to do. Can someone please help?
So the upshot is, the LessonStatus result is set to pass everyone – this is a problem with the content, not with DOTS.
The content should be either calculating the data on the fly and returning ‘fail’ if they haven’t passed 80% - or LessonStatus should be off, and the scores be returning values to DOTS for calculation.
Appreciate your help.
Beck
22 Replies
I guess your LMS-Providers name is DOTS?
What they actually are saying is that the problem is connected to your file, not the lms.
Or more like "Dont blame us, you the one who did wrong"
What i THINK they want you to do is to set a number on each question (or more lika a point)
if you got 6 question i guess you want to set each question to 16,6 % but that not really important, you can give each correct answer 1 point.
Then DOTS count the correct answer/point and if you get more than 80 percent THEY set lessonStatus= Passed.
How have you set tracking? Do you have a results slide for only those six question?
You should set up a results slide for the six questions (set your passmark on the results slide) and then on publish set it to track via this slide.
I effect they must get 5 questions correct. If you have already done this check the questions are set up correctly. Also you may need to change how Storyline reports it may be DOTS only excepts certain parameters, I would try passed/failed as it is a quiz.
Hi Beck,
In addition to the suggestions shared above, I also wanted to share the information here on troubleshooting general LMS issues. Additionally you may want to look at testing in SCORM Cloud which is an industry standard for testing SCORM content to help narrow down if the issue is in your content or if it's how the LMS is reading the information.
Thank you very much for your responses. I can't set a results slide up, some modues have 10 questions others have 3, I can't say to pass each module they need to get 80% because the modules with 3 questions you either get 100% correct or you don't pass the 80%.
Jacob, how do you set up points per question?
Thank you
you can set up a results slide for each module, set your pass rate for each module on the results slide and the set up a results slide of results slides. Set this so that user must pass all the results slides and then use this for passing the result.
Jocob's solution would require a results slide. the only other option is to track by slides and design the course so they can only aperitif they view all the slides.
Tracking is by either slides viewed or a results slide, the LMS will get the completed status from the tracking, if you do not want to track then you need some way of doing this in the LMS or just upload a publish to web instead of publish to Scorm.
I think there is some help pages on what results slides are and how to use them on this website somewhere. Have a look.
Hi Rebecca,
Here is some information on setting up a results slide.
Thank you very much everyone. I have read all the information previously about the results slide. Is this the only way to organise this?
The current settings are for LMS Tracking:
Tracking using number of slides viewed
Minmum number of slides viewed to complet (15 of 15) etc.
Report Status:
Passed/Incomplete
You can use slides viewed but it is likely the answers will not pass to the LMS, if you want it to mark as complete just reduce the number of slides that are required to be viewed.
Tracking via number of slides viewed does just that - the LMS will only look at the number of slides the participant viewed and will not track scoring data. If you want the LMS to track scoring data then you must setup your results slides with a minimum score required and to track with passed/incomplete (default), or passed/failed. If your course has multiple modules, each with its own pass/fail setup, then you will need results slides for each module, and a master results slide tracking all of those in the top level. The setup would be something like this:
A. Main course module
A1. Sub-module 1
A1.a Sub-module 1 results slide
B1. Sub-module 2
B1.a Sub-module 2 results slide
A. Main course module master results slide
In this course we have an overall course module containing two sub-modules. In each of the sub-modules we have a results slide that tracks the sub-module score. We then have the main course results slide set to track the two sub-module results slides. Based on what you described above, I think this is your best bet.
Thank you very much, so I will add a results slide to each module. My next question, is there a way I can add the result slide without showing it?
I have set it up, I have set it up after Congratulations you have finished this module slide and have placed the result slide after this slide and have removed the next icon so they can't click on it. This results issues should still work shouldn't it.
Also, if I say they have to pass each module 100% and the LMS calculates that they have to pass 80% correct over the 6 modules. That is right isn't it?
I really appreacite all your advice. Thanks
Hi Rebecca. The answer is no. In order for the results slide to pass results to the LMS, it needs to tabulate them and will send them at the time you specify via the Submit Results trigger. I suppose you could try just putting that trigger on a different slide and that may work. However, I suggest you use the results slide as your final slide. You can tailor content on it however you wish, so it does not have to have the look and feel that you see from the stock template.
We want it to calculate 80% over all modules not each, how do I calculate that?
Thanks
Well, you set each of the modules to 100%? That means that nobody will pass any of your modules without perfect scores. If you don't want that, then set the pass rate lower for each module, like say, 80% for each of the modules and 80% for the master results slide.
Will the master result slide calculate the 6 modules?
It should take all six modules into account and tabulate based on the scores from each. So if you have all six modules linked to the master results slide, then it will look at each of the scores and it should average them for a final score, which would need to be 80% or greater to pass the course (if you have it set to 80%). None of the modules will pass unless they have achieved a score greater than or equal to whatever you have set for each module though.
Thank you very much, I will give this a go.
I have added a results slide at the end of each of th 6 modules.
How do I set up the Master Result slide? When I select 'Calculate results for: Selected results for' and it lists the result slides however it only shows the 1 results slide in that module. How do I get it to use all 6 result slides?
Thanks
Hi Rebecca,
When you refer to a module, are you talking about one .story file? All the results slides will need to be in the same .story file and set up as standard results slides to be accessible to another results slide. You can modify how they look - but would need to have inserted them using the "insert new slide -> results slide". You may want to take a look at this tutorial to see how it looks and appears.
I may be way off base here, but if you answer each question, you have completed whether you answer right or wrong.
completed/not completed is not the same as pass/fail
Hello Stacia. There is a difference. Completed/Not Complete is different from Pass/Fail. Pass/Fail reports users pass/fail status in terms of how they scored on the course. When the course is set to Pass/Fail, you must enter a minimum required score. Complete/Incomplete simply tracks whether or not a user completed the training by slides viewed and does not really care about what their scores were on the tests.
Hi Stacia,
Storyline also offers four different options as each LMS may use a different passing/completion language - or you may need to report completion and success as detailed here.
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