Moodle - tracking issue

Hi

I've been asked to place an e-learning I did before SL came out into moodle so that it can be tracked. Later this year I will be placing SL trainings in Moodle.

At the moment the viewed slides are being tracked. This works fine in the frontend  - the user see's that the training has been completed. In the backend it is also tracked. BUT if the learner then goes into the training again and doesn't view the required number of slides, the user still sees that he has completed the training, BUT in the backend the results are overwritten. So when I get the results from the moodle guys it says "incomplete". Which means at the moment we have to access every account and check it from a user perspective to see whether the training was completed or not!

The moodle guys say that the issue only arrises with Articulate and that Captivate has an extra place to tick which states whether the current result should overwrite or not.

Has anyone experienced the same thing? The moodle guys won't change anything in the platform as such, as they say all the other software runs with it and they don't want to risk anything happening to the other courses. So I need to find a solution as the problem only occurs with "my" courses.

As I also can't see an "overwrite option" in SL, I assume I'll have the same issue.

Can anyone help?

Kim

6 Replies
Phil Mayor

you can do three things, either set Moodle to start a a new attempt  each time the cpourse loads, but the course will not be able to resume.

In moodle give the user an option to start a new attempt

Or you can edit the javascript files so the course score can only improve.

it is actually a moodle issue the course is being opened in review mode (because it is complete) but moodle is allowing an overwrite of the score (shouldn't happen in review mode).

Dan Marsden

Hey Phil - can you clarify a bit on "moodle is allowing an overwrite of the score (shouldn't happen in review mode)." - I always thought (but never actually checked to verify) that it was up to the SCORM package how it behaved when in review mode - is there something in the spec that says we shouldn't allow raw_score to be changed while in review mode? - We don't have any open bugs around this in the Moodle tracker either.

Jamie Shaw

Hi Kim - I'm currently encountering similar issues and have had a bit of success in pinning down the cause of the problem.  You might want to look in the configuration.js file and review a couple of settings there, such as:

SCORE_CAN_ONLY_IMPROVE - set this to true (it's false by default)

and 

REVIEW_MODE_IS_READ_ONLY - set to true or false depending on the desired behaviour

You can find the configuration file in the output folder under 'lms'.  

Phil Mayor

Dan Marsden said:

Hey Phil - can you clarify a bit on "moodle is allowing an overwrite of the score (shouldn't happen in review mode)." - I always thought (but never actually checked to verify) that it was up to the SCORM package how it behaved when in review mode - is there something in the spec that says we shouldn't allow raw_score to be changed while in review mode? - We don't have any open bugs around this in the Moodle tracker either.


Hi Dan

I spoke with Articulate support on this issue a while back and they said it was the job of the LMS,

The standard configuration file ofr the LMS has

var REVIEW_MODE_IS_READ_ONLY = true;

Because of this I would have expected the score not to be editable in review mode and other LMS's I have used do not change the score.  I never opened a bug on this in moodle as we found a workaround.

If I am wrong I apologise, but the term review mode to me, means the score should not change.

Phil

Kim Alison

Hi - I've changed Score-can-only-improve to true and my guys will hopefully test it this week. I hope this will then work, but it seems reasonable that it should.

At the same time I'm finishing the next training but using Storyline. Do you know, if I have to do something similiar here? I tried to find a js.file but there is only a story.js and it doesn't seem to have the same options - but as I'm not from IT it's difficult for me to tell.

Or is the setting always Score-can-only-improve?

Do you know?

Kim