Need audio to complete on buttons/pop-ups before the next button/pop-up can be accessed

Jan 04, 2018

I have a client request for audio to be completed on all buttons and pop-ups before a learner can access any other buttons/pop-ups on the screen.  Any recommendations for how to do this?  Need quick turnaround.

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Wendy Farmer

Hi Patti

I created a variable for each slide in the scene and then used that variable in a trigger for the Next button and to stop the media.

Say you have a slide that just has objects and no audio, you would use 'when timeline ends' in the trigger.  If you have a slide with audio or video that they must watch the first time, you would use the object that has the longest timeline in the trigger.

If you had let me know a few days ago I could have helped but I'm on a deadline now and  I don't have time to code the other 7 scenes for you. These are the variables and triggers I used in Scene 1

Triggers for Slide with audio and or video

Triggers for slide with audio but with objects on timeline longer than audio clip duration

 

 

Patti Myers

Thanks Wendy.  My biggest question is how to do it with the buttons and audio with this new programming.  I tried today and couldn't get it to work, but sure I'm missing something.  2.4, 2.9, and 3.11.  Thanks.  I definitely understand about deadlines.  Thanks for any ideas.  You have been awesome!!!  Appreciate it.

Patti

Wendy Farmer

Hi Patti

here is slide 2.9 and 2.10 so you can test it out.

I created a T/F variable for the base layer of slide 2.9 (scene 2_9) and created a T/F variable for each layer scene 2_9L1, scene 2_9L2, scene 2_9L3, scene 2_9L4 and used these variables in the triggers.

For some reason, 'when media completes' would not work on any of the layers to change the variables so I had to use 'when timeline ends' in the triggers.

Hope this helps.

 

Patti Myers

Thanks Wendy.  This is very helpful.  Appreciate it!  I am replicating this programming and so far, so good.  One question.  The client does not want the initial audio to play, but wants to give the learner the ability to play or hear the audio if they want.  I added a play button, but this becomes tricky for the slides with audio on layers or a slide with a video.  Any suggestions?  On 2_4/2_9 for layers for instance or 2_2 with video.  You have been great.  Thanks so much.

Patti

Patti Myers

Wendy,

I hope you are available.  I have been replicating the programming your provided on 2_9 and it worked fine, but I tried listening to just one of the buttons and selecting the previous button to test the slide before we pass to the client on Monday and I can go to the previous slide (which I am suppose to be able to do), but then when I select next on that previous slide and come back to 2_9, the NEXT button is enabled even though we have a trigger not to set it to Normal until all layers (buttons) are equal to True!  I'm not sure what to do to fix this.  I have tried different things all day and nothing is working.  Any ideas?  Please help!

 

Wendy Farmer

Hi Patti

sorry I'm on a deadline as well so I've haven't done any more to your file.

Just to clarify I thought on the re-visit you wanted the slide to be unlocked and the ability to play the audio if required using a button.  Have I missed something?

Perhaps you can share the slide 2.9 and 2.10 and what you have done so far and I'll take a look...please clarify the requirements.

Patti Myers

Thanks Wendy.  Appreciate your help.  I totally understand.  Yes, I do want the slides to be unlocked when a client re-visits a slide, which seems to be working fine except for the slides that are interactive or have button/pop-ups.  For instance, 2.9 is unlocking after only a partial visit to the slide.  The trigger is set up and the client's requirement is that all audio must be listened to in it's entirety for all slides, including buttons and pop-ups before the Next button is enabled for that slide.  Right now, when you visit a slide like 2.9, it works correctly for the enabling of the Next button, but if they select Previous prior to completing or listening to all elements/audio on the slide, the can return to the slide and the Next button is Enabled.  I am having a time with 2_4, 2_9, 3_2, and 5.9.  (Also, on 5.9, the programming is not working to re-enable the Next button or play the second audio, which ideally I would like to play before they select the More Presentation Considerations button). 

I think I have messed with this so much, I'm making it worse.  :(!  I'm enclosing the entire presentation.  I have tested this to death and am getting discouraged and still need it to work, pass a SCORM test, send to my boss to test and get to client by Monday.   Uggh.  And one of my poor kids has the flu.  Appreciate any help.  Thank you in advance!  You have been absolutely wonderful!!!

FYI.  We were asked to add "Replay Audio" buttons to the slides to replay audio on re-visit since they did not want the learner to have to hear the initial audio on the re-visit.

Wendy Farmer
Patti Myers

but if they select Previous prior to completing or listening to all elements/audio on the slide, the can return to the slide and the Next button is Enabled.

Hi Patti, if you are wanting them to listen to everything on a slide before going next why aren't you locking down the Prev button as well until everything is viewed...I can't say I've ever clicked a Prev button in the middle of visiting a slide until I've finished with it.  Just a thought

Patti Myers

Wendy,

All good points.  I guess I'm trying to figure out how to program this in a way that meets the clients needs.  They did not mention to lock down the previous button, so are you saying that even with the triggers, etc., that if they leave the slide and come back, the Next button will and should enable upon re-visit even if not elements are watched or listened to (in other words, that's the way it is suppose to work)?  Please advise.  

Can you please look at the slides mentioned ( 2_4, 2_9, 3_2, and 5.9) and check my programming to make sure it is programmed correctly and works right?  Thank you!  I know Slide 5.9 is not working right, because the next button never becomes enabled.  Thanks.

Wendy Farmer
Patti Myers

that even with the triggers, etc., that if they leave the slide and come back, the Next button will and should enable upon re-visit even if not elements are watched or listened to (in other words, that's the way it is suppose to work)?

Hi Patti - no I'm not saying that, I'm just trying to get all the information before I try working out how to go about what you want. Normally you would have all the requirements before you start development so you aren't reworking and this is where it gets messy.  

So to clarify:

I land on Slide 2.9 for the first time, the next button is disabled, I listen to the base layer audio, progress through a couple of the layers but then I click Prev and come back to this slide and should it restart from where they left off or from the beginning because they hadn't completed the slide when they clicked previous?

Thinking out aloud I'm wondering f a better way of doing it is to move the layer contents to their own slides.

I've got a few hours of my own client work to get through so I'll take a look later today if you can answer my queries above.

Patti Myers

Thanks Wendy.  Yes, I agree about the requirements and the re-work.  Unfortunate.  We are going to Gold, so to put the layers on their own slides would not be feasible at this point in the process.  The requirements as I know them are:

1)  Pop-ups with Audio
The interactive elements need to be locked down until each one is complete as per CPE requirements.  Please restrict click on the other boxes until audio is completed on each one. The next button must not be enabled until all elements are completed (audio/interactivities) on the screen.

2) Next button unlocked/enabled on re-visit/preview

Once a learner has completed a slide and decides to return to the slide or re-visit the slide, the Next button should no longer be enabled and the Initial audio does not play.

These are requirements that came in late, but need to make them happen.  They actually didn't mention watching a slide mid-way and clicking on previous and coming back to the slide, I was just testing all options just in case. Hope that helps.

I understand you have other work.  I appreciate your help and think we are almost there.  If we can mainly check the programming on those screens I mentioned, I think we should be in good shape.  Fingers crossed.  Thanks.

Patti

Wendy Farmer

Hi Patti

I've been working on slide 2.9 for over an hour and it's not happening. What is interesting is:

when trying to add a trigger to the layer 'when media completes' the variable won't change, but using when timeline ends on the layer does.

I stripped out all triggers on the base slide and all layers.

The audio file shows like this when there are no associated triggers:

as soon as I add any trigger that references the audio file it changes on the timeline to this:

I'm starting again to add back the triggers and see what happens...hope you're having better luck.

Wendy Farmer

Hi Patti

see if this works for you.  It's just the three slides 2.8, 2.9 and 2.10 for testing.  Also on 2.8 it says to click Confirm but the button name is Submit.  Also audio says only one attempt, but when I select previous from 2.9 I can go back and do the interaction again.

Hope this helps

Patti Myers

Wendy,

I appreciate you spending so much time on this.  You had better luck than I did.  I was working on my file all day yesterday.  This is great.  It likes like it is working great and not re-enabling the Next button if go midway through and hit previous.  Yay!  Would you recommend the same programming on 2.4, 3.2, and 5.9?  And it does look better with the Replay button not showing up at first on slide 2.9, I couldn't figure out how to make it disappear.

And in my file, they asked us to change the Submit button name to "Confirm", but things for bringing this up.  There is one attempt on the initial slide, but they wanted all activities set to Initial state, so they do have the option to try it again if they re-visit.  Hope that helps.  This has been a challenging project to say the least.

So appreciate your help.

Patti

Patti Myers

Wendy,

I applied all the programming to the other interactive slides.  It seems to be working.  Thank you so much!  I tested all the slides, but for some reason, when testing today, now slide 5.9 Replay Base Audio button is not working when you re-visit the slide.  I could swear it was working last night.  Can you please look at this slide and see if you see anything I've missed to make the Replay Base Audio work.  It won't play the audio and I can't select any of the buttons on re-visit either.  I've looked and re-looked at the programming...maybe another eye will help.  Thank you!!!  Enclosing updated file.  Thanks.  Patti

Patti Myers

Wendy,

I can't believe it was that simple.  Thank you!  That did the trick. :)  You rock!!!

I did notice some of the audio for the buttons on the re-visit play automatically without select the "Replay Audio" button on the layer and the "Replay Audio" button does not appear for the Ranges layer on re-visit.  Any thoughts there?  Thanks.

Patti

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