NEW IN STORYLINE 360: New Triggers Panel and Workflow

Do you have 'Hide objects on base layer selected'?

Can you share the slide and someone might be able to help you

Here is a snag of the old version that I trying correct.  I need to change it to Answer 2.

Yes I can share the slide. I do not have "Hide objects on the base layer" checked.

If you can share the slide and not an image that would be helpful in trying to see what's going on.

Give me a few minutes to upload the slide. I need to delete the rest of the slides out of my story.

Here is the story.

I am not sure if I turned on the new Trigger Wizard Feature.

Hi Joe

I changed the trigger to be on timeline start and it's working - I think the new trigger wizard is a different way of thinking about things. I may be wrong ;-)

Hi Joe - So I had to double check to make sure, but what you are seeing is expected behavior. I took a look at the video you shared as well as the file. Nothing has changed behavior wise from what was possible in previous versions of Storyline 360.

This can be confirmed on your end if you revert to the old Classic wizard/panel via Storyline Options - https://community.articulate.com/series/articulate-storyline-360/articles/articulate-storyline-360-user-guide-how-to-set-options#features

Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything I can help you with, regarding this or anything else. 

Hi Wendy - From Joe's video, he's trying to have a trigger on a layer interact with an object on the base layer using a 'When the State of' trigger. The issue he is seeing is expected behavior.

Most triggers on layers are unable to interact with other layers including the base layer and has been that way for some time.

Thank you Wendy. That makes total sense now. My brain was not working trying to hurry to fix an issue and did not take to time to think about it. So used to the old way.  Thanks.

For what it's worth Adrian - this actually used to be achievable as Joe pointed out. I've attached a screencast showing how it behaves with the older trigger window. If you select an object on the layer first, you can interact with base layer objects. Clearly the fact that you could only do it under certain conditions meant that it was never intended, but it was incredibly useful and let you create some complex interactions.

Doesn't make sense NOT to officially support this as a feature as far as I'm concerned.

Hi Ben - I'm going to reach out directly via PM. If you could share that file from your video, I would definitely like to take a closer look. Thanks.

I'm totally confused then (and it doesn't take much - LOL) . I'm on the incorrect layer in the wizard and I can see objects on the base and on the layer itself - or are you referring only to specific triggers?

Hi Wendy - Sorry for any confusion. Yes, referring to specific triggers. In your screenshot, you are looking at the Action part of a trigger, but Joe's issue was with the When part of the trigger.

Some triggers will work with the base layer, but others won't. It depends on the setup.

As no one commented on my earlier post I thought I would ask again.

Is this new trigger wizard going to be applied to Storyline 3 as I have some lessons with a ton of triggers and this wizard would make my life so much easier!!

Thank you Ben,

That is something that our team has used a bunch of times in building our moduleSSS.

Hi Curtis,

Based on your post, I've been holding off on upgrading my copy of Storyline because my current big project has a couple of important web objects in lightboxes. I'm wondering if you and your team have managed to solve the issues you reported above with web objects in the latest Storyline build.

Cheers!

Finally. Great work Articulate Team. :)

Hi, We are experiencing a bug with new trigger panel where some triggers reset without any interaction. This is mainly happening in the modern player next and prev buttons. The triggers are set to jump to a specific slide but change to jump to the next slide or to the slide itself on publish.  2 developers are experiencing this has anyone else?

Hi there, Rob. I haven't seen reports of this behavior on the latest update, so I'm glad you reached out!

A few questions to help us unlock what's happening:

• Is this happening in any Storyline 360 file or a certain one?
• Can I confirm that you and your team are working on a local C: drive (C:)? 
• With your permission, we're happy to troubleshoot an affected .story file. If that works for you, you can upload that file privately with this upload link. We'll delete it after a thorough look!

For reasons we have for the time being, we are currently on SL version 3.16. We have a dev that is updated to SL version 3.32. When a file is saved in version 3.32, I can still open it in version 3.16. However, we have found that files created from version 3.33 (trigger wizard update) that we cannot open in 3.16, but can in 3.32. It says some features are not available and to open in the new version.

Is there a way we can save the 3.33 version files in a backwards compatible way?

Hi Chris,

Thanks for reaching out and sharing what you are running into. I've not seen this reported, but I'd like to understand the issue a bit better. 

I'm curious if you save using the classic workflow, does this allow you to open the course as expected? 

Here’s how to switch back and forth between the new and classic workflows.

1. Go to the File tab on the Storyline ribbon and choose Storyline Options.
2. Select the Features tab on the left side of the window.
3. Turn the new trigger workflow on or off by checking or unchecking the box.
   
4. Click OK.
5. Restart Storyline.

Hey Leslie,

I did a lot of experimenting (one being what you suggested above) and came to the conclusion that is has to deal with how Storyline v3.33 handles images that are imported into the program. 

I was able to open a file made in v3.16 with Storyline v3.33, then copy over images previously imported into the file that was created in v3.16 back over in storyline v3.32 (save the file) then re-open that file in my SL v3.16. However, images that were imported into a storyline file made with v3.33 can be copied over into SL v3.32 (saved as a different file), but then cannot be opened by v3.16.

I can copy text over across all three versions no problem. I've not exclusively tested if audio files have the same issue since I was able to discover that the problem was there with just the images. So the audio files may also have similar issues.

TL;DR - Images imported into a file made in v3.33 (or higher I'm guessing) are encoded differently somehow and causes SL v3.16 to ask you to update to open the file. Somehow though, v3.32 can open v3.33 files without issues, and images imported directly into v3.32 can be opened in v3.16.