Training Completing/submitting results too soon.
Oct 24, 2014
Hi Everybody,
I am having a real a problem with training marking off as complete too early. The training is an assessment so is almost entirely questions. Staff have to get 80% correct.
I have the 'submit results' trigger on the very last slide. in fact the only way to get to it is to have started all sections of the assessment. Each area has it's own result slide (that doesn't report) so they can review individual sections.
The problem is that if you get to 80% right and close the training it marks you as complete even if you haven't attempted all of the questions. I don't see how this is possible because it shouldn't have submitted the results.
Any ideas?
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Hi James
I created 2 quizzes with their own results slide and then a master results slide that reports — total of 10 questions. I uploaded to SCORMCLOUD and only did 8 of the 10 questions (got them all right) then closed the training and I end up with an 'incomplete' status.
HI Wendy,
Good to know. I guess there is a difference between the seting we have. I don't suppose you could upload our test file so i can have a look at the settings?
Thanks
Hi James
you can upload yourself — just signup for a trial . Scormcloud
Just need the SCORM zip file, load it up then launch the course and stop it when you want to check the status.
I'm out of my office for a couple of hours now...but if you want me to help test it later I can do - just let me know.
Cheers
Wendy
Here is my test story...just in case the setup from inside SL is different (hope it's what you were after) ;-)
Hi Wendy,
Thanks again. I will check this on our LMS but could you also put the .storyline file on here? That way I can check the way you have done your reporting settings and compare then to mine.
Thanks
Hi James,
. story file is in the above post
Hi Wendy,
hmm I can see that it says '.story' but when I download it I just get the one zip folder with the attached inside. This looks like the upload/published zip to be uploaded to an LMS.
Is this what you are seeing?
Thanks :)
Sorry James not sure what's happening
try this one...it's def a SL file
Hi Wendy I am getting the same result with this one. The file size is a bit suspicious so I am going to upload a test with this post.
ok so that is much larger in physical size (very few slides) and opened straight up in storyline.
Can you select the link and see if yo uget the same behaviour?
ok so that is much larger in physical size (very few slides) and opened straight up in storyline.
Can you select the link and see if yo uget the same behaviour?
Hi James
I downloaded my ' Quiz_80_Result_slide.story 223 KB' file and it opens in SL2. It consists of two scenes each with 5 quiz slides and a result slide, then a master result slide joining them. Its only small as there is minimal graphics / media in it.
Because I run both versions of SL, I download and right > open with ...then choose the version. I don't just doubleclick to open.
When I download your test.story...I can see the intro screen in preview but it takes forever to move from the intro screen to the main menu once I click Begin
Here is my skype address if its quicker to communicate
wendy.farmer2111
Hi Wendy,
It seems my computer automatically tries to make your file a .zip. I have manually typed in the .story and changed the file extension and can now open it.
I will compare/test against my own and get back to you.
Thanks
HI Wendy,
Well I have learnt three things - Salmon swim upstream and tuna down (but then how do the salmon get back out of the river), You most likely have not seen Star Wars and this issue is most likely with the LMS not Storyline.
My settings are the same as yours. When I load yours onto my LMS and reach 80% and close the training it marks off as complete.
Thank you very much for all of your help and for effectively providing me a control to test against. I will let you know how this pans out.
Good news about isolating it to 'something' and you're right I have never seen Star Wars...
Hi James,
Thanks for the update, and I'm glad you were able to open and test Wendy's file. You may want to review this article on troubleshooting tips for tracking and reporting in your LMS - and as Wendy mentioned, testing at SCORM Cloud is a great method as it's the industry standard for SCORM testing and you can have a free account.
Wendy, finally someone else who hasn't ever seen a Star Wars! ;-)
So in not so good news the LMS provider has come back with:
"I have spoken to the developers and they have infromed me that this is by design, if a user has reached the passing grade it is considered as complete."
Which is quite possibly the dumbest feature ever.
My work-around, make 100% the pass mark and have the learner navigate to the slide telling them they have completed their training worth 20%. Screws with my results though.
Wow...passing grade and 'completion' status are two variables in my book...guess that was one of those undocumented features in the brochure.
Maybe a SUPERHERO can help you here — sorry James I'm not technical enough to know how to trick the LMS...
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