I'm not sure whether this is something that works or not since I don't currently have a test LMS. Nevertheless, a client has asked me for this, so I imagine it doesn't work.
They want the navigation to be restricted (user can review but not go forward) while the person is taking the course. Once the user completes the course, they want the person to be able to go back into the course and have the navigation be unrestricted.
As far as I know, once they visit a slide they can revisit it at any time. From the docs: "Restricted navigation means learners can view the current slide and any slide they've previously viewed, but they can't jump ahead or skip over slides."
So if they've viewed a slide they can go back to that slide. If they've done all the slides then all the slides should be available for review.
Ok, one more question. Can I change the state of an object to hidden after media completes and have it remain hidden when the user revisits a slide after completion? In other words, they left the course and returned to it later to review.
Okay, I figured out what I did wrong. I had two triggers set to when media completes, so one of them wasn't being triggered. It works.
My client is telling me that the menu is grayed out and unclickable when students return. Do I have some setting wrong? I'm using restricted navigation. Do I need resume saved state for that, too?
hmmm... I can't send you what I have because it's confidential. I might be able to create an example out of youtube videos. Before we all go through the trouble though, let me just make sure they're not just confused on their end.
Ok, so my client is still telling me that the menu remains restricted when the user logs back in to review. Any ideas what's going on here?
The basic setup is 4 scenes with videos. The user cannot navigate to a new scene until the video completes. Once it does they are able to go back to that video as long as they are still logged in. Once they log out and log in again, the navigation is still restricted, and they cannot freely go to the next scene.
Ok, this is apparently still a problem for my client. As it turns out it works perfectly on ScormCloud but not so good in Adobe Connect.
After the user certifies and exits the course they want to go back into the course to review. Adobe tells them they're in review mode, but does not present the box that asks if the user wants to resume and therefore the menu remains locked.
If it works as expected in SCORM Cloud, that's an industry standard for LMS testing and we'd be unable to assist with the Adobe Connect elements. There is an older tutorial here on how to load content into Adobe connect, so you may want to confirm you're following those steps. Also, the course may be locked into review mode to prevent the user from changing the status, and you could look at manually overriding that as detailed here. Please note though that changing the published output is not something we can offer support for.
I'm having trouble making this work. My client wants the learner to be able to use the menu to skip around for purposes of review only AFTER they have completed the course first. I have the menu restricted so they can't skip around the first time but can't figure out how to make it free after completion. This course does not end in a quiz.
I have the menu restricted so they can't skip around the first time but can't figure out how to make it free after completion
Hi Betsy
do you mean within the same session? With a restricted menu once they have viewed a slide it becomes unlocked and they can go back to it as many times as they want. They just can't click a slide forward in the menu that they haven't yet visited. Is this not the behaviour you are seeing?
I know there isn't a quiz but is the client still hosting the course on an LMS? If so which one, and which browser are they using? Perhaps try testing in Scormcloud (Industry standard LMS) and if it works there you know it's an LMS option that needs tweaking.
I tried testing in scorm cloud and it doesn't work. The menu is set up to just show the scene titles and not each slide. They want them to be able to click on the scene title and review the scene. Yes, this is after they complete the course but before they exit out of it. I have the setting on "restricted".
Glad that Wendy was able to pop in and assist you here.
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As far as I know, once they visit a slide they can revisit it at any time. From the docs: "Restricted navigation means learners can view the current slide and any slide they've previously viewed, but they can't jump ahead or skip over slides."
So if they've viewed a slide they can go back to that slide. If they've done all the slides then all the slides should be available for review.
Hi Lisa!
Looks like Steve has you covered here :)
Here is a similar post if you'd like to check it out as well.
Ok, one more question. Can I change the state of an object to hidden after media completes and have it remain hidden when the user revisits a slide after completion? In other words, they left the course and returned to it later to review.
If you have the slide set to resume saved state as well as have the resume set for the course, this should work as expected.
Okay, I figured out what I did wrong. I had two triggers set to when media completes, so one of them wasn't being triggered. It works.
My client is telling me that the menu is grayed out and unclickable when students return. Do I have some setting wrong? I'm using restricted navigation. Do I need resume saved state for that, too?
Do you have a .story file that you'd like us to take a look at Lisa?
hmmm... I can't send you what I have because it's confidential. I might be able to create an example out of youtube videos. Before we all go through the trouble though, let me just make sure they're not just confused on their end.
Is there a test LMS that I can download and use?
We recommend utilizing SCORM Cloud for comparison to LMS output and standards :)
Ok, so my client is still telling me that the menu remains restricted when the user logs back in to review. Any ideas what's going on here?
The basic setup is 4 scenes with videos. The user cannot navigate to a new scene until the video completes. Once it does they are able to go back to that video as long as they are still logged in. Once they log out and log in again, the navigation is still restricted, and they cannot freely go to the next scene.
Why?
Were you not able to replicate in SCORM Cloud Lisa? Would you be able to share your .story file with our support team here?
Hi Guys,
Ok, this is apparently still a problem for my client. As it turns out it works perfectly on ScormCloud but not so good in Adobe Connect.
After the user certifies and exits the course they want to go back into the course to review. Adobe tells them they're in review mode, but does not present the box that asks if the user wants to resume and therefore the menu remains locked.
Anyone had this problem before?
Hi Lisa,
If it works as expected in SCORM Cloud, that's an industry standard for LMS testing and we'd be unable to assist with the Adobe Connect elements. There is an older tutorial here on how to load content into Adobe connect, so you may want to confirm you're following those steps. Also, the course may be locked into review mode to prevent the user from changing the status, and you could look at manually overriding that as detailed here. Please note though that changing the published output is not something we can offer support for.
I'm having trouble making this work. My client wants the learner to be able to use the menu to skip around for purposes of review only AFTER they have completed the course first. I have the menu restricted so they can't skip around the first time but can't figure out how to make it free after completion. This course does not end in a quiz.
Hi Betsy
do you mean within the same session? With a restricted menu once they have viewed a slide it becomes unlocked and they can go back to it as many times as they want. They just can't click a slide forward in the menu that they haven't yet visited. Is this not the behaviour you are seeing?
I know there isn't a quiz but is the client still hosting the course on an LMS? If so which one, and which browser are they using? Perhaps try testing in Scormcloud (Industry standard LMS) and if it works there you know it's an LMS option that needs tweaking.
I tried testing in scorm cloud and it doesn't work. The menu is set up to just show the scene titles and not each slide. They want them to be able to click on the scene title and review the scene. Yes, this is after they complete the course but before they exit out of it. I have the setting on "restricted".
Betsy Murphy, PHR
Principal, Breakthrough Talent Solutions, LLC
469-222-6420
www.breakthroughtalentsolutions.com
Hi Betsy
having scene titles in the menu will not allow the user to click and go anywhere it has to be linked to a slide
OK, got it. Thanks!
Betsy Murphy, PHR
Principal, Breakthrough Talent Solutions, LLC
469-222-6420
www.breakthroughtalentsolutions.com
Hey Betsy,
Glad that Wendy was able to pop in and assist you here.
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