Visited state doesn't prompt Next button

Hi Staff and Heroes,

I was sure that I had done this before, but I can't seem to get the Next and Previous buttons to appear after all of the 5 images on the screen are visited.

Here is what I have tried:

  • Using variables, it didn't work
  • Changing the State to "selected" instead of "visited" and that didn't work
  • Creating a Button Set, that didn't work
  • Changing the order of operations, that didn't work
  • Changing the slide state to "Resume saved state" that didn't work

I can't think of anything else!  I'm ready to ask for help. I have attached the slide that is causing me so much grief. :-)

Thank you!

36 Replies
Matthew Bibby

Hi Victoria,

I just had a quick look at your file and have found the problem. 

Firstly, your slide triggers are in the wrong order. This is what's happening at the moment:

  1. Storyline checks to see if all the pictures been clicked on. If they have, it shows the Next and Previous buttons.
  2. Then, it hides the Next and Previous buttons.

This isn't really helpful!

Move the change state of the ____ button to Hidden when the timeline starts triggers to the top so they are executed first as shown below:

Secondly, these triggers are set to execute when the timeline starts. This is a problem as we want Storyline to check if these pictures have been visited not only when the slide initially loads, but also when moving between the layers.

If you add a new trigger, Jump to 1.1 Seldinger SAC catheter, above each of the Show layer triggers then Storyline will jump to the start of the timeline before showing the layer. 

Hopefully that should resolve things for you. Let me know if you require clarification on the above. 

Victoria Sublette

 

Thank you both, Matthew and Ravindra!

I could have sworn I had done it that way one thousand times, Ravindra, but when I copied what you did, it worked perfectly!

Thank you so much!

Thank you, Matthew, I rearranged the order of the triggers, too. What you said makes total sense.

Thanks again!!!

Victoria

Victoria Sublette

Ok, it's happening again. Maybe this is  a bug. I thought I was just imagining things, but here I have the same problem and it's telling me that the Flagged objects do not have the selected state of "visited".

Later, if I try it again, it might work. Can you see anything wrong with the screenshot? I think the rectangles should have a visited state.

Michael Hinze
Victoria Sublette

Aha Thanks, Michael! I thought when they said those states were "built in" meant that I didn't need to add them. Much like I don't need to add the expressions on the characters' faces. I get it now - thanks!

Yes, only controls, such as buttons come with a full set of already-created, built-in states. For all other objects, like your rectangles, these states can easily be added but are not pre-built when you first insert a shape.

Deborah Barnard

Just in case you want to go back to the slide:

After clicking all the triggers, getting the next button to show and going to the next slide, when I clicked previous, the hidden next button hides AGAIN and can't be triggered.  Then all I could do is close the whole thing. I finally figured out to add a little something to the hide next button trigger. Was this the easiest thing to do? 

Ashley Terwilliger

Hi Deborah,

Having the slide "resume to saved state" should work, assuming all the conditions you've outlined were already met as well. If you're having some difficulty with that, we'd be happy to take a look at the troublesome slide(s) to see how they are behaving and if there is anything else that could be impacting the set up. 

Ashley Terwilliger

Thanks Deborah - I rebuilt a similar set up, and I'm able to see that when revisiting the slide the next button is not staying as normal. I was able to get this working if I tracked it based on a variable associated with clicking the next button - so you could use that method, and I'll report the other behavior to our QA team. 

Ashley Terwilliger

Hi all,

Thanks for your patience as we investigate the issue associated with the next button not being normal/accessible on a revisit to a slide where you had initially set it to hidden at the start of the slide.  It’s been determined that this behavior is as expected based on what the triggers are telling Storyline, although it may not match what you wanted to occur.

Since the previous/next buttons are set to be hidden at the start of the slide via triggers, when returning to the slide the command given to Storyline is to hide the buttons as soon as the slide starts. The slide is resuming the saved state of the previous/next buttons as expected, but then the triggers tell Storyline to hide them as soon as the slide loads.

This is where applying the conditions to those initial triggers will come into play - as you’ll want to adjust the next/previous buttons to “hidden” only if the user has not visited this slide before. You’ll see this set up in the file I attached that has that trigger/condition set up associated with the state change of the next player button.

Please let us know if you have any other questions!

 

Shubha S

Hi!

I am facing this really weird problem right now. I have created a slide with lesson pictures and state changes. Every time the user is done with the lesson the state of that picture changes.
I have hidden the next button. and created a simple trigger when the pictures are visited the next button changes to Normal.

When I preview just the slide the slide works perfectly. But when I preview the entire scene the next button remains hidden.

The scene contains several slides and layers within those slides. Anything i need to be checking for?

Unfortunately I cant share the file  .

Wendy Farmer

Hi Shubha

Hard to say without seeing the setup - is the slide with the lesson pictures is that a hub slide that jumps to other slides when the user clicks the picture or it jumps to layers of the slide?

Could it be the trigger order if it is not working when you are previewing entire project.