Storyline 4 dates

Hi Ashley,

Thank you for your response and clarification. You're right about the comparison table. It's just that on the SL 3 "homepage" the SL360 vs SL 3 is what we see at the bottom after the new features. I also understand the distinction on the subscription elements especially the Content Library assets. It's the SL "core" updates that I'm more interested in as an optional paid upgrade e.g. random variable;  review, retry questions, modern player and conditional seekbar. Again, I respect Articulate's right to configure its offerings. I'm just asking for the opportunity to upgrade periodically while keeping a perpetual license. 

Thanks also for passing on to the rest of your team. Truly appreciated and I look forward to SL4 and/or a suitable solution :-)

All the best for the New Year to you and the team.

Hi Ashley,

Can you at least say is Storyline 4 even considered? Wandering around articulate page I have that feeling, that... sadly, no. To get an information on Storyline 3 I must dig a little now.

Of course I understand that subscription model is probably way more profitable than standalone versions, but sadly for non USD or EUR countries, it's really pricey. I'd love to continue work with Storyline, since I'm with it from 2012, but the cost can be killing, especially if my company would like to hire another person to do learning content (we are small business doing e-learnings on-demand, not some big corporation making tons of learnings a year). Upgrading once in 3 year is really attractive and helps to maintain costs. You have done some nice things with 360 (enhanced object positioning and modern player for example), but the first one only makes working more comfortable, and the second one, with some work, can be achieved in storyline3.

But I'll probably buy the 360 subscription, if I could do it like Adobe did with CC. You just want just one app? Ok, here you go, take it. You want all apps? Sure, no problem, just pay us a little more. Maybe you want additional access to stock library? Here you go, just few more dollars. If I could choose that I only want Articulate 360, without any additional content. Fairly, I don't see any use of studio, rise, replay or review. I also don't see a need to use content library.

What I'm trying to say... Please, let us have a little freedom in WHAT we want to buy :) Considering above, if I need to pay for only Storyline360 I'd probably go for it. Now, I'll stick to the good old SL3 :)

Hi Ashley,

Why doesn't Articulate benchmark from Adobe and offer Storyline 360 in a perpetual version, taking into account that any cloud-based functions will be lost, as Adobe does with Captivate 2019? Adobe offers a cloud-based subscription (for much cheaper than 360 by the way) for Captivate or you can get the full version as a stand-alone. We have both perpetual versions of Captivate 2019 and Storyline 3. As part of the DoD, we can't allow ANY cloud-based software from an outside agency into our networks for national security reasons so your product is slowly becoming obsolete to our agency and probably soon to a lot of other Government agencies that have strict network security protocols. You might want to re-evaluate your business model if you want to keep some of the Government agencies as well as some corporations that take network security seriously.  

All these demands for SL4 when SL3 isn't even 2 years old yet.  Historically Storyline has been on a 2.5 year cycle, which would put us at late 2019 when we **might** see SL4.  But like Ashley said, with most users on 360, Articulate's focus should be on 360 and, one would assume, would likely slow the development cycle for SL4.  But another assumption of mine is Articulate would just wait until there's enough new features in 360 to fork that as SL4, which (again all assumptions here) I'd imagine would require minimal dev time.

Either way, from my recollection Articulate has always been tight-lipped about new releases (I've been a user since Studio '09/Storyline 1).  I wouldn't get huffy and puffy until at least 2020.  Until then I'll continue dreaming of the day when there's Storyline for Mac :-D

Just curious to all.  What do you find lacking in SL3 that you would like to see in SL4?

Hello All. Hopefully Articulate consider the population of consumers that are unable to use 360 due to Federal or corporate policy governing sensitive content. Perpetual licenses are sensible and ideal for consumers that must use tools to develop sensitive content.

Perhaps Articulate may consider bringing their suite of fantastic tools to FedRAMP, there is a huge and open market for these types of tools that could be used in the government sector.

I'm going to chime in here with another voice in support of perpetual versions. In your current business schema you've overlooked the needs of many of your customers: specifically, contractors. I am one of them, and it just isn't practical for me to sign onto an annual subscription when next year's clients may want all ILT or Lectora. What happens then, when I've been working on another type of project entirely for 8 months and a previous client asks for a "quick fix" to something in SL? At that point I can't even access something that is part of my own portfolio! Quite a lot of your customers are contractors like myself, and you've put us in a bind. 

Hello Ashley, 1 year ago i asked you for a release date of storyline 4. Can you now tell me, how long we have to wait for getting an answer to this question?

Hi XX,

You've raised a question that's been on my mind for a while and I suspect that you'll get a glib, patronising response to say something like "You really don't need perpetual licenses, look at all of the fabulous features in SL360". What you won't get is a definitive response from Articulate telling us that we haven't wasted our time and money investing in a product that they're no longer going to support.

There are several other threads discussing the update to Storyline V4 (https://community.articulate.com/discussions/articulate-storyline/storyline-perpetual-licence) but none of them get honest answers.

Unfortunately we've switched to Adobe Captivate, which I don't feel is an intuitive as  SL but at least it's supported and available as a perpetual license, is cheaper than 360 and isn't bloated with applications you'll never use.

Sad that we've been abandoned but still hoping Articulate will have a change of heart. (I suspect we'll get yet another meaningless response though).

Hi xx, 

We're continuing to support Storyline 3 with bug fixes, but we haven’t made any decisions about developing a new perpetual version of Storyline (aka Storyline 4). 

If you have any other questions, happy to answer them or feel free to connect with our team one-on-one! 

Hi,

I have SL 3 and have been using it for many projects over the last six months. I really like it and am very comfortable using it. I have used it since it first come out.

I also have a perpetual license for Adobe Captivate. What I really appreciated about Captivate is that they update BOTH the subscription and perpetual versions at the same time. Unfortunately Articulate continues to develop and add features to 360, but does not bother updating StoryLine 3.

I will NEVER subscribe to 360 because of cost, unneeded and obsolete applications, and that it is SLOW. All of the other eLearning tools I use are 64 bit applications. So I only use SL3 for small, limited applications.

Fortunately, we have many other options for developing high-quality eLearning. However, StoryLine is like an old friend, and I will be sad to see it go.