You're definitely creating some really cool things with Rise! Thanks for continuing to share the ideas, concepts and awesome demos here with our community. It's much appreciated. :)
Hi Zsolt: First off Happy new Year and thankis your your time to create the script for the fake branching. That is exactly what I needed since I wante to create 15 units with five lesson each. However, I would like to know what to write between the commas, if there is no branch in one of the lessons, that is, setBranchData ("4","who do I write here?",1, "5","3");
Honestly, I didn't think it out that far that you would have some lessons hidden and some not... Let me see if I understand, so you have let's say lesson 1,2,3,4,5 is one "unit". You show 1. The rests are hidden? But you also have another "unit" 6,7,8,9,10? Where you show 6 and hide the rest?
I have followed the code instructions as per the link and it works great to hide the elements of my branched scenario. However, the navigation links at the bottom of each lesson for the rest of the course have also disappeared. Is this a side effect of the code or something I have done wrong?
You might want to reach out to Zsolt directly to see if he can assist with this code modification as it's not something I can assist with. That way you can share you code too and see if he spots something off with the changes you made.
I'll check. It's supposed to hide the ones that belong to the hidden pages. So, for example if your lesson 1 is visible and you have a branching page, there would be a link at the bottom to Lesson 2. But you don't want them to click on that since your branching will determine whether you go to LEsson 2, Lesson 3 or Lesson 4.
If you don't care about the bottom and top links I can tell you what to change no to hide anything.
The scenario I have is in a course with 20 lessons but only lessons
13,14,15 and 16 are involved in a branch scenario.
The hiding and removal of the links to next lessons works perfectly for the
branching part.
But I still want the link to the next lesson for the remaining lessons in
the course.
Hi Zsolt - you kindly helped out my colleague Claire and I with an issue we were having with hiding the menu for branching scenarios within a course of 20 lessons. We have now uploaded this to our LMS to test and it is all working fine but the course does not show as complete if the learner does not investigate all the branches of the scenario.
In Storyline 2 we used to get around this by altering the number of slides that needed to be tracked when publishing the course. This option does not appear in Rise when you publish. Do you know if there is another way around this?
I have followed your instructions on yoursite, however am having a little bit of difficulty with the ID number. In your instructions it shows single ID's. However on my latest local export the ID's show up as follow.
#/list/cj182ukci00023j6akl6joqxw
I replaced all of the necessary locations in ID position and the hidden ID positions, tested and it works great. However as soon as I place that long ID in the status, next or previous position the entire code breaks.
I want to be able to hide everything below the first Dave and Gus Scenario.
How are you looking to compare them? Are you thinking something like a pre and post type of quiz?
Branching often refers to a user only going through a particular series or flow of the course - so that they don't see all lessons or quizzes, only the ones relevant to them, or in the order best suited to their status.
So all we want to show is that the score in the first quiz will be less than in the second quiz - the quiz is the same each time but the student will have more info the second time they view it.
In theory I could just have a standard message saying that their performance improved. Ideally it would show the score in the first quiz and then the second but we could get away with just telling them they improved. . . .
Any ideas?
I saw that Zsolt Olah's example Rise course had branching and some pop-up messages. Do you think something like that could work for this?
First of thank you for sharing this great workaround! I've now begun using it to develop a multi-branching scenario and the results are excellent.
But I was wondering how your link identifiers are only single digit? Mine show up like this:
#/list/cj182ukci00023j6akl6joqxw
It has been very time consuming copying these link IDs into the editor. Is there anyway I can make them smaller, as in your example, so they are easier to copy into your zsolt.js file in the editor?? This would save me a lot of time.
This is a very cool option but would it not be better to have this built in to Rise? The ability to hide 'lessons' pages from the menu would be brilliant.
Ashely - any chance we can get this put on the roadmap???
Hey Paul! Adam recently shared that we're working on a feature that will allow you to optionally hide the sidebar. I don't have any updates to share at this point on when that feature will be released or how it will function, but we'll give you all the deets right here as soon as it's ready!
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Zsolt,
You're definitely creating some really cool things with Rise! Thanks for continuing to share the ideas, concepts and awesome demos here with our community. It's much appreciated. :)
I learn just as much as from others here, so it's a payback.
Are these links still available? I'm getting a 404 error
Bluehost hosting servers are down. They "working on the issue."
Hi Zsolt: First off Happy new Year and thankis your your time to create the script for the fake branching. That is exactly what I needed since I wante to create 15 units with five lesson each. However, I would like to know what to write between the commas, if there is no branch in one of the lessons, that is, setBranchData ("4","who do I write here?",1, "5","3");
Thanks again for the workaround,
Allen from Costa Rica
Allen,
Honestly, I didn't think it out that far that you would have some lessons hidden and some not... Let me see if I understand, so you have let's say lesson 1,2,3,4,5 is one "unit". You show 1. The rests are hidden? But you also have another "unit" 6,7,8,9,10? Where you show 6 and hide the rest?
I have followed the code instructions as per the link and it works great to hide the elements of my branched scenario. However, the navigation links at the bottom of each lesson for the rest of the course have also disappeared. Is this a side effect of the code or something I have done wrong?
Hi Claire,
You might want to reach out to Zsolt directly to see if he can assist with this code modification as it's not something I can assist with. That way you can share you code too and see if he spots something off with the changes you made.
Claire,
I'll check. It's supposed to hide the ones that belong to the hidden pages. So, for example if your lesson 1 is visible and you have a branching page, there would be a link at the bottom to Lesson 2. But you don't want them to click on that since your branching will determine whether you go to LEsson 2, Lesson 3 or Lesson 4.
If you don't care about the bottom and top links I can tell you what to change no to hide anything.
Zsolt
Thanks for the quick reply.
The scenario I have is in a course with 20 lessons but only lessons
13,14,15 and 16 are involved in a branch scenario.
The hiding and removal of the links to next lessons works perfectly for the
branching part.
But I still want the link to the next lesson for the remaining lessons in
the course.
I hope this makes sense.
Claire
Claire,
I updated the logic. Try this version. The only file changed is the zsolt.js.
Thanks so much, this work perfectly.
Hi Zsolt - you kindly helped out my colleague Claire and I with an issue we were having with hiding the menu for branching scenarios within a course of 20 lessons. We have now uploaded this to our LMS to test and it is all working fine but the course does not show as complete if the learner does not investigate all the branches of the scenario.
In Storyline 2 we used to get around this by altering the number of slides that needed to be tracked when publishing the course. This option does not appear in Rise when you publish. Do you know if there is another way around this?
Thanks again for all your help!
Alena,
Did you include the solution (a or b) from here to set completion:
http://bit.ly/2iLowao
I usually test it on scormcloud to make sure completion works. The file I attached in the previous note passed in scromcloud.
Zsolt
Aah no - we hadn't seen that solution. Many thanks for your quick response - we will have a play and see if it works!
Zsolt Olah, I'm hoping for your assistance.
https://rise.articulate.com/share/cAtgAyWhdRnkZav8nJoZEJNdBMZDY7FX
I have followed your instructions on yoursite, however am having a little bit of difficulty with the ID number. In your instructions it shows single ID's. However on my latest local export the ID's show up as follow.
#/list/cj182ukci00023j6akl6joqxw
I replaced all of the necessary locations in ID position and the hidden ID positions, tested and it works great. However as soon as I place that long ID in the status, next or previous position the entire code breaks.
I want to be able to hide everything below the first Dave and Gus Scenario.
Here's the code.
setBranchData ("cj182ukci00023j6akl6joqxw","cj1832v9200003j6ayrol8nk7,cj1835yjz00033j6amensjukb,cj183aqhe000b3j6a4cyzqzvd",0,cj183omb8000d3j6al91h0okm,cj182tq6f00003j6aaca7p3ft);
Hi Aaron, I am having the same difficulty with the list id. Did you manage to solve this? Cheers Rachel
Hi,
Do you think there would be anyway of comparing two quiz percentage results after you have completed them both? Would this be classed as branching?
Any advice would be great :)
Hi Sarah,
How are you looking to compare them? Are you thinking something like a pre and post type of quiz?
Branching often refers to a user only going through a particular series or flow of the course - so that they don't see all lessons or quizzes, only the ones relevant to them, or in the order best suited to their status.
Regarding the question of comparing two quiz percentage results:
You could capture the quiz score percentage once they complete the first quiz in a custom variable.
E.g.
Create a variable called: Quiz1_ScorePrecent
Add a trigger on the first result slide that says “Add Results.ScorePercent” to Quiz1_ScorePercent when the timeline starts
Then you could embed this value next to the Results.ScorePercent on the results page of the second quiz.
My bad, this is the Rise forum. My answer applies to Storyline.
So all we want to show is that the score in the first quiz will be less than in the second quiz - the quiz is the same each time but the student will have more info the second time they view it.
In theory I could just have a standard message saying that their performance improved. Ideally it would show the score in the first quiz and then the second but we could get away with just telling them they improved. . . .
Any ideas?
I saw that Zsolt Olah's example Rise course had branching and some pop-up messages. Do you think something like that could work for this?
Hi Zsolt,
First of thank you for sharing this great workaround! I've now begun using it to develop a multi-branching scenario and the results are excellent.
But I was wondering how your link identifiers are only single digit? Mine show up like this:
#/list/cj182ukci00023j6akl6joqxw
It has been very time consuming copying these link IDs into the editor. Is there anyway I can make them smaller, as in your example, so they are easier to copy into your zsolt.js file in the editor?? This would save me a lot of time.
Thanks in advance
This is a very cool option but would it not be better to have this built in to Rise? The ability to hide 'lessons' pages from the menu would be brilliant.
Ashely - any chance we can get this put on the roadmap???
Hey Paul! Adam recently shared that we're working on a feature that will allow you to optionally hide the sidebar. I don't have any updates to share at this point on when that feature will be released or how it will function, but we'll give you all the deets right here as soon as it's ready!