I think this is a case of strange states. If a state is visited I think it also = normal. I try not to use the normal state on conditions. I may be wrong but have had some strange things happen when trying to reset to notmal
I remember Steve saying something about this. I think an object is always normal and everything else builds on top of this. So checking for normal is pointless
Not checking for Normal... changing to Normal (initial state is Hidden).
I'm getting some really wonky (as in nothing is happening) with Triggers in Slide Layers (in the Master Slide)... My logic is Aristotelian, so I guess I'll try black magic to get this to work?
Anyone else have problems with Triggers & States within Slide Master > Slide Layers?
Hi Ryan, I have this problem during beta. I had the trigger on the object and it did not work at all. Brain suggested changing it so that the trigger was at the slide level. He said it worked.
I actaully solved the problem by adding a custom state that looked exactly like normal and had it change to the custom state instead of normal.
I have been able to change objects from hidden to normal without a problem. My issues seemed to occur when creating triggers based on whether an object was normal or not - that didn't seem to work well...
That trigger should work if you're within the scope of the master layer. You can't target across the barrier (base <> master). You can do this with a variable listener though by changing a variable value.
Hi Ryan, sorry I didn't read the part about the slide master. Steve is right about using a variable listener. In fact, I have an old storyline example of his that shows how to do this. I've attached it here for you to look at. (Steve, I hope you don't mind me passing on your solution).
Hmm... You're right Ryan. Looks like objects within a layer in the master slide aren't receiving state change trigger events. On the master base layer, all seems OK. Just can't communicate to any object in the master layer, even from the same master layer using any type of event.
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I think this is a case of strange states. If a state is visited I think it also = normal. I try not to use the normal state on conditions. I may be wrong but have had some strange things happen when trying to reset to notmal
Yup. You're right, it's a States issue. I even tried it as a simple "change to Normal" (default is Hidden) When the timeline starts ... got nothing.
Hmmm.
I remember Steve saying something about this. I think an object is always normal and everything else builds on top of this. So checking for normal is pointless
Not checking for Normal... changing to Normal (initial state is Hidden).
I'm getting some really wonky (as in nothing is happening) with Triggers in Slide Layers (in the Master Slide)... My logic is Aristotelian, so I guess I'll try black magic to get this to work?
Anyone else have problems with Triggers & States within Slide Master > Slide Layers?
Hi Ryan, I have this problem during beta. I had the trigger on the object and it did not work at all. Brain suggested changing it so that the trigger was at the slide level. He said it worked.
I actaully solved the problem by adding a custom state that looked exactly like normal and had it change to the custom state instead of normal.
I have been able to change objects from hidden to normal without a problem. My issues seemed to occur when creating triggers based on whether an object was normal or not - that didn't seem to work well...
Thanks Nancy. I'll be trying out your solutions today.
Okay, both solutions did not work.
Am I to assume Trigger Wizard > Change State Of, does not work within Slide Master Layers?
That trigger should work if you're within the scope of the master layer. You can't target across the barrier (base <> master). You can do this with a variable listener though by changing a variable value.
Hi Ryan, sorry I didn't read the part about the slide master. Steve is right about using a variable listener. In fact, I have an old storyline example of his that shows how to do this. I've attached it here for you to look at. (Steve, I hope you don't mind me passing on your solution).
Not at all Need to write those up and publish. Have a heap of tech experiments / proofs. Not much else in my bag 'o tricks:P
Thanks Steve & Nancy. Just got back from The Avengers; will be testing this out tonight.
I'll put together a screenr tonight so show what I'm trying to do.
This is still not working, but in my mind, it should. If it's a software limitation, it'll be good to know.
Nancy, I looked through your story file, but it's not doing any Trigger action on Slide Master Layers; that's where my grief is.
/still hunting.
Hmm... You're right Ryan. Looks like objects within a layer in the master slide aren't receiving state change trigger events. On the master base layer, all seems OK. Just can't communicate to any object in the master layer, even from the same master layer using any type of event.
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I knew I wasn't crazy!!! Thanks Steve!
This is really unfortunate - I had a no-brainer solution, put on some relaxing music, powered up the ol'SL, the BAM!... this roadblock happens.
What's weird is, a trigger like "Hide This Layer" works fine from a Slide Master Layer, but all the other Trigger's seem forgotten...
I'd call it a bug Should be mucho fixable.
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