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Everything we know about Cornerstone on Demand and Storyline!
I thought I would start a thread about Cornerstone on Demand so there's a central place for people to read and add to. There seems to be a dearth of information about how CSOD and Storyline interact with each other as well as the unresolved issues surrounding it. I've spent many hours scouring the web and speaking with Cornerstone trying to find a solution. Hopefully this thread will serve as a resource for others going forward.
On a side note, I love Articulate Storyline. I started with Adobe Captivate with limited success. It was a very steep learning curve, but I was able to get some basic functionality out of it. I tested out Storyline with it's 30 day trial, and I will say that time-to-effectiveness was drastically reduced. It really IS like using powerpoint. Granted there is less complex functionality and interactions available than Captivate, but so far it's given me everything I've needed to use. The benefit is that the learning curve is much less steep too. Think of it as the difference between iMovie and Final Cut Pro. The latter can do some crazy effects, but the former gives you 90% of what you need and can get you comfortable in 1/4 of the time.
It's nice to have a properly-working content creation tool when you're in an LMS like Cornerstone. I have enough trouble in CSOD as it is.
So some of the nuggets of wisdom that I've found are :
- Cornerstone does not track SCORM 1.2 content properly. You cannot pull a lot of the reports if they are not in SCORM 2004 format. You don't have the option to select that course in the reports.
- If you export into SCORM 2004, there will be an extra section on the left with text links to the module. This takes up 30% of the screen, and on smaller laptop screens may crowd out the module window. Cornerstone says this is a Storyline exporting settings issue. I couldn't find any settings that shows/hides that section. The workaround is to resize the module to the screen, which doesn't get rid of the section, but at least fits the module.
- When reporting, you can get the completion status for a course based on quiz result or last slide viewed. You can also get a final grade for course. Storyline passes the results information for each question (including short answer) but you cannot pull a list of the answers for an individual. Therefore, it may not be advisable to administer any testing where you'll need to review individual answers
- You can get a list of aggregate answers for a module. e.g. I can see how 100 employees answered this multiple choice question. This is helpful to determine if learners are absorbing the course information correctly.
- Web objects (such as websites, or links to sharepoint documents) work in modules if your IT has added csod.com to the trusted sites
- Popup windows that open up the articulate module in CSOD will work if you add csod.com to the allowed list for popup blockers. Your IT dept can also add this to everyone's computer. Otherwise when learners click the "launch" button, the module does not show up.
I'll post more as I think or find them, but feel free to add to this list!
- dhannyasekharCommunity Member
Hi Jason,
Working on an Articulate Storyline course to be published on Cornerstone LMS (SCORM 1.2) I need to create an "I Certify" button at the end of this page turner course (more an e-book). When the learner clicks the button, the course should mark completed in the LMS.
Could you please help me with this problem? I am not a programmer, so am looking for a step-by-step description. Actually, I would really appreciate any help you can give...
Dhannya
- MatthewMasciCommunity Member
Hi all,
I was curious if there was any way to move a failed Articulate Storyline course from the Active course list in Cornerstone On Demand. What I want to do is remove the option for staff to re-attempt the module should they fail it.
I've tried all 4 different LMS publish settings Comp/Incomp, Pass/Fail, Pass/Incomp, Comp/Fail, and none of them seem to do this.
Any ideas?
MM.
- AdamCannon-dcdcCommunity Member
Matthew,
I spent the better part of a year going back and forth with the CSOD support team on this very issue. We never did figure out a way. (BTW, it didn't seem to matter whether I was in Storylline or Captivate, they both had the same result in CSOD). We finally just moved our quizzing to the antiquated built-in Test Engine in CSOD (at the behest of our management team).
- AdrianaHarperCommunity Member
Hi Jason -
Thanks for this post. Are you able to send me the language you used to ask CSOD to turn this setting off on their back end? I am having trouble communicating what I need them to do.
Can you also advise if you are using any 3rd party courses yet - and if it's impacted any of them? We have some Skillsoft content in CSOD that I'd hate to 'break'
Thanks in advance!
- KarolineKeywortCommunity Member
Hi All,
We are using Articulate Storyline to create courses for our LMS (Cornerstone OnDemand). They typically consist of videos, animations, drag and drop questions, and other Storyline interaction capabilities and end up being around 10 to 25 minutes long. The biggest course we have is 100 MB. For desktop computers and laptops the courses run very well but we are running into a few issues when running the same courses on mobile device. Mobile devices are crucial since these courses are for a transportation company and majority will be taken on mobile devices. We will have over 5,000 people taking this courses soon. Cornerstone does not allow 3rd party applications to be opened through their program so that eliminates the option of using the Articulate app.
Are there any best practices or information that could be provided to us on how to best create and deploy these courses? Are there particular browsers and devices that work best for the courses? We want to maintain that our courses continue to be very interactive and informational.
Thank you!
- StevenMillsCommunity Member
Karoline Keyworth said:
Hi All,
We are using Articulate Storyline to create courses for our LMS (Cornerstone OnDemand). They typically consist of videos, animations, drag and drop questions, and other Storyline interaction capabilities and end up being around 10 to 25 minutes long. The biggest course we have is 100 MB. For desktop computers and laptops the courses run very well but we are running into a few issues when running the same courses on mobile device. Mobile devices are crucial since these courses are for a transportation company and majority will be taken on mobile devices. We will have over 5,000 people taking this courses soon. Cornerstone does not allow 3rd party applications to be opened through their program so that eliminates the option of using the Articulate app.
Are there any best practices or information that could be provided to us on how to best create and deploy these courses? Are there particular browsers and devices that work best for the courses? We want to maintain that our courses continue to be very interactive and informational.
Thank you!
Hi Karoline,I have the same problem, with going mobile, size is going to be an issue. If you are trying to use the HTML 5 and use a browser, each page will download as you visit them causing it to be slow plus I have found HTML 5 is unstable with IOS devices. We have had luck using the CSOD mobile app, for some reason that will allow you to use the Aticulate Mobile Player but just going to CSOD through Safari will not allow you to use the app. I would recommend breaking up the module in smaller sections, or compress your video and image quality. We have considered using a cloud based LMS like Aticulate Online or Scorm Cloud to host the mobile content and place the links in CSOD, but I am not sure what tracking you need. Both solutions do track, but then you will be dealing with two LMS's, and have to manually enter the data back in CSOD for your mobile users.It is a balance between creating the best user experience and keeping your sanity managing the LMS. Good luck! -Steven
- ChrisRogersonCommunity Member
Hi CSOD Users..
I have encountered a problem with a course not tracking properly in CSOD. The course is published as SCORM 2004 3rd edition with the tracking set to number of slides viewed. Tracking is set to Complete/Incomplete.
The course will not mark as complete in the SCORM Cloud test bed or in CSOD. It will recognise the course has started, but will not recognise progress or completion.
I really do not know what else I can try, does anyone else have any tips?
Arrgh!
I also have this error when trying SCORM 1.2 in SCORM Cloud
- KarolineKeywortCommunity Member
Chris Rogerson said:
Hi CSOD Users..
I have encountered a problem with a course not tracking properly in CSOD. The course is published as SCORM 2004 3rd edition with the tracking set to number of slides viewed. Tracking is set to Complete/Incomplete.
The course will not mark as complete in the SCORM Cloud test bed or in CSOD. It will recognise the course has started, but will not recognise progress or completion.
I really do not know what else I can try, does anyone else have any tips?
Arrgh!
I also have this error when trying SCORM 1.2 in SCORM Cloud
I'm having similar issues. We have a course posted as SCORM 1.2 and the reporting method is "passed/incomplete" and it does not track in Cornerstone. We switched it to the "completed/incomplete" reporting method and that didn't work either. Any suggestions? Hi Karoline,
Have you reviewed the blog post here on troubleshooting common LMS issues? Also, I am just noticing Chris's message above that he tested it on SCORM Cloud as well and it wasn't working as expected - have you been able to test there?
- ChrisRogersonCommunity Member
Hi All,
I found a resolution to my problem just before Christmas. I'll try to explain how it was fixed...
The course had some triggered slides in, if a user got a question right it went to slide X..if wrong it went slide Y etc. There were about 12 scenario's in the course like this. Now, if you got a question right, you will never see the slide for the wrong answer and vice-versa.
If there are 12 scenario's like this then there are potentally 12 slides (or more) which will not get seen. Just make sure your completion is set to the correct number of slides to be viewed before it is marked as complete in your LMS.
Hope I explained it ok??!
Chris
Perfect explanation Chris, and thanks for coming back to update us!
Another thought, if you don't need to report a score to your LMS, you could always report completion based on visiting a particular slide.