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I'm trying to figure out how to change a button state when you click on it, then change it back to the original state when you click it again. It seems simple, but it just won't work f...
Hi Doug, I saw your comment about your posts being reported right away. Not sure what is causing that but I'll look into it. For your button, a quick fix is to switch your buttonison state to the built-in selected state. With the selected state, you don't need triggers for it to work, and you can still have variables that track the button state if you need that. I've attached an example. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions!
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logic","id":"message:972094","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":6,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:755445"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:discuss"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:972094"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:972094"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" Hi all, \n \n I'm trying to figure out how to change a button state when you click on it, then change it back to the original state when you click it again. It seems simple, but it just won't work f...","body@stringLength":"2377","rawBody":"
Hi all,
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I'm trying to figure out how to change a button state when you click on it, then change it back to the original state when you click it again. It seems simple, but it just won't work for me, and I'm hoping someone here will tell me where I'm going wrong. I've included the file with this post.
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All I want is to when I click on the button (starts off in the \"Off\" state) to change to a new state (ie \"On\" state), but then when I click it again, it switched back to the original state (ie the \"Off\" state).
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Currently, I can get it to change once to the \"On\" state, but it won't change back to the \"Off\" state when I click it again. I've added a tracking T/F variable called \"buttonOn\" as a way of controlling the state of the button. The button (called OnOff Button) has two states: Normal and buttonOn)
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Here are the triggers I've got in the order they appear:
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1) Set buttonOn to value True
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When the state of OnOff Button is buttonIsOn
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2) Set buttonOn to value False
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When the state of OnOff Button is Normal
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3) Set state of OnOff Button to Normal -----> (ie State 1)
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When the user clicks OnOff Button
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If buttonOn = value True
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(ie change the button to be Off when the user clicks the button and visual state of the button is On)
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4) Set state of OnOff Button to buttonIsOn ----> (ie State 2)
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When the user clicks OnOff Button
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If buttonOn = value False
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(ie change the button to be On when the user clicks the button and the visual state of the button is Off)
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Seems logical to me, but it doesn't work. I can get it to change once, but it won't change back to the original state. I can do it using layers, but I'd rather stick with changing states.
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What am I doing wrong?
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i've noticed that when I try editing the different states, there are triggers that appear where I can't delete them. Is this normal?
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Yup, that definitely fixed the problem. Thanks, Ginger ! :-)
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Yup, that definitely fixed the problem. Thanks, Ginger ! :-)
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Hi Doug, I saw your comment about your posts being reported right away. Not sure what is causing that but I'll look into it. For your button, a quick fix is to switch your buttonison state to the built-in selected state. With the selected state, you don't need triggers for it to work, and you can still have variables that track the button state if you need that. I've attached an example. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions!
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Hi Doug, I saw your comment about your posts being reported right away. Not sure what is causing that but I'll look into it. For your button, a quick fix is to switch your buttonison state to the built-in selected state. With the selected state, you don't need triggers for it to work, and you can still have variables that track the button state if you need that. I've attached an example. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions!
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Hi Tom
I think that if PowerPoint did the things you've specified easily there'd be no need for specialist quiz products like QuizMaker!
That said, most, if not all, of what you've described could probably be done in PowerPoint using VBA macro functions. For example, in broad terms you could: 1. Specify a global variable, e.g. TotScore 2. Increment TotScore by 1 whenever someone clicked specific buttons (i.e. the correct answers) on any slide in the presentation 3. If TotScore was greater than your desired passing score you could set another variable PassStatus to 'Passed' otherwise set PassStatus to 'Not Passed' and display that on a certificate slide.
This wouldn't be foolproof. Anyone who knew their way around PowerPoint could probably reverse-engineer the correct answers by poking around the backend of PowerPoint.
Anyhoo, just my two cents' worth based on what you asked. Someone else may have a better idea.
Good Luck!
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Hi Tom
I think that if PowerPoint did the things you've specified easily there'd be no need for specialist quiz products like QuizMaker!
That said, most, if not all, of what you've described could probably be done in PowerPoint using VBA macro functions. For example, in broad terms you could: 1. Specify a global variable, e.g. TotScore 2. Increment TotScore by 1 whenever someone clicked specific buttons (i.e. the correct answers) on any slide in the presentation 3. If TotScore was greater than your desired passing score you could set another variable PassStatus to 'Passed' otherwise set PassStatus to 'Not Passed' and display that on a certificate slide.
This wouldn't be foolproof. Anyone who knew their way around PowerPoint could probably reverse-engineer the correct answers by poking around the backend of PowerPoint.
Anyhoo, just my two cents' worth based on what you asked. Someone else may have a better idea.
Thanks Pete Brown - its a reasonable option to continue to play with pptx...but like you said, Quizmaker was made to fill a gap :) So this exercise has cost more than I budgeted - but this is how projects go sometimes - even if you are doing the work for noble reasons :)
All the best
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Thanks Pete Brown - its a reasonable option to continue to play with pptx...but like you said, Quizmaker was made to fill a gap :) So this exercise has cost more than I budgeted - but this is how projects go sometimes - even if you are doing the work for noble reasons :)
Tom, i hope you don't me jumping in. PPT was never really designed for quizzing as such and Pete's advice is bang on. There are 2 aspects to think about - quizzing and the results/analysis. At the moment I am creating courses for approx 1700 learners, the questions have been created in Storyline 3 and the courses containing these have been uploaded to our LMS (BlackBoard) as Scorm files. When learners complete these courses and quiz questions the results are recorded in grade centre.
Now dependng on these results I have set up conditions on our LMS and if a user meets them i.e. more than 50% then BlackBoard provides a completion certificate for the user. If you have smaller numbers of learners then you may be able to provide the lessons without an LMS but for larger scale courses an LMS is essential to manage the users, record scores, produce reports/certs and to meet audit/compliance regulations from your organisation or other parties.
Tom, i hope you don't me jumping in. PPT was never really designed for quizzing as such and Pete's advice is bang on. There are 2 aspects to think about - quizzing and the results/analysis. At the moment I am creating courses for approx 1700 learners, the questions have been created in Storyline 3 and the courses containing these have been uploaded to our LMS (BlackBoard) as Scorm files. When learners complete these courses and quiz questions the results are recorded in grade centre.
Now dependng on these results I have set up conditions on our LMS and if a user meets them i.e. more than 50% then BlackBoard provides a completion certificate for the user. If you have smaller numbers of learners then you may be able to provide the lessons without an LMS but for larger scale courses an LMS is essential to manage the users, record scores, produce reports/certs and to meet audit/compliance regulations from your organisation or other parties.
As I indicated...I was just hoping to avoid learning another application :) You are most certainly correct when you indicate one of the real tasks of an LMS is to administrate the learners - for without this part of the application - such as corrrectand consistent marking and certificate awarding (and recording these things) then eLearning would quickly be irrelevent. I am all for an LMS....but my request was to discover if someone had been able to find a clever way to use powerpoint yet :) Thanks for your comments
As I indicated...I was just hoping to avoid learning another application :) You are most certainly correct when you indicate one of the real tasks of an LMS is to administrate the learners - for without this part of the application - such as corrrectand consistent marking and certificate awarding (and recording these things) then eLearning would quickly be irrelevent. I am all for an LMS....but my request was to discover if someone had been able to find a clever way to use powerpoint yet :) Thanks for your comments
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