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LauraWinzen's avatar
LauraWinzen
Community Member
5 years ago

Return to Rise lesson/course after closing content link tab

I've built a multi-lesson course in Rise with links to videos, PDFs, etc embedded in the content blocks. The Rise course itself opens from our LMS in a separate browser window (but not a browser tab). When a learner clicks a content link in the Rise course, it opens in a new tab. When the learner finishes and closes the tab, the Rise course seems to have disappeared. It's still an open browser window in the browser, but it isn't visible right there. If they don't know to look in their browser icon, they will think they're lost and have to open the Rise course again from the LMS. They end up with dozens of Rise course windows that they can't see after they close content tabs. Shouldn't they always be returned to the window with the Rise course? There has to be a solution for this.

36 Replies

  • BarbaraHadley's avatar
    BarbaraHadley
    Community Member

    To add to my earlier problem, I have embedded a storyline survey into rise that has a print answers button. When the students press the print answers button it allows them to print to PDF. But now there is NO way to return back from the PDF printable answers to Rise360. 

  • AbreaDaLay's avatar
    AbreaDaLay
    Community Member

    We are having the same issue with the GeoLearning LMS. From my understanding, we do not have a way to control in the LMS how a link from the SCORM package opens, that it has to be changed from the SCORM package file. We are needing a way for the Articulate file to tell the LMS to open the link in the same window as the course instead of the background window.

    • KarlMuller's avatar
      KarlMuller
      Community Member

      Hi Abrea,

      In our LMS, it's set up to open links in a new tab.

  • Most LMSs should have the option to open the course within an LMS window. While I prefer a SCORM to open in a separate window (no LMS padding), I have changed this to open embedded in the LMS as so many of our users were getting lost when clicking external links that open in new tabs (user error meant they couldn't navigate back to the separate open SCORM window).

  • @Laura did you ever share the code? We're having this same issue in Docebo... In Desktop it opens a new app but in the mobile app it opens over top causing the course to close and the user has to click back in. 

     

  • davelees's avatar
    davelees
    Community Member

    Has anyone come up with a resolution for this? it looks like this has been going on for 5 years! we have the same problem.

    • davelees's avatar
      davelees
      Community Member

      Hi Kelly,

      The issue happens because on our LMS the course content opens in a new window with the SCORM window behind the content window, when you open a link from the content window it opens in a tab in the SCORM window and hides the content window, for someone who is not very tech savvy it is confusing. I just want to be able to open a link from the content window in a new window above the content window so that when it's closed the content window will be open behind it.

      GeoTalent

      All courses

      Consistently

      Thanks!

      • LaurenDuvall's avatar
        LaurenDuvall
        Staff

        Hello davelees! I appreciate the extra context! By default, links in a Rise 360 course open in a new tab. But many LMSs override that behavior and force links to open in the same window. That sounds like what’s happening here.

        You could try a different browser to see if it handles things differently, but most of the time, the LMS controls how Rise 360 functions. If we come across a workaround, we’ll definitely share it here!

  • DarrenNash's avatar
    DarrenNash
    Community Member

    old post I know but.... Elearning modules using best practise should never have links to external folders or pages etc. All modules should be black boxed. Links can break and change, but most users never click on them and if they do, they often do not return. This is usually driven by the SME's wanting a lazy option to update content in the folder rather listening to the learning expert. It should be about the user experience not the SME needs to make their life easy. The SME's role to provide the correct and accurate information based on the user needs and not to instil what is best for them to make their life easy. This should always be outlined in the discovery meeting. This is well written nand researched that adding external links should not be used. Its a bad habit from using them in PPT slides and so it must the same...its not. Elearning modules are are document repositories, and any support documentation should be provided outside of the module through other instructions or, put an instruction and link in the Course description in the LMS as it can be easier to update and fix not if, but when the link fails. That way the module itself it black boxed and if a document needs to be used as part of the training then embed it. Using moving targets that change is not a good or consistent experience for the user.

    • DavidHolzemer-7's avatar
      DavidHolzemer-7
      Community Member

      Totally agree! 

      unfortunately, in my world that is almost never the case 🤷‍♂️

      • DarrenNash's avatar
        DarrenNash
        Community Member

        I understand, and that is actually part of the reason this situation keeps happening. In many areas PowerPoint and documents are used as reference material, so adding links to SharePoint or live files becomes normal practice. However, an eLearning module is not a document, and once it is published in the LMS it has to remain stable, self-contained, and auditable. Because of this, external links are not considered reliable and are not aligned with learning design or LMS best practices.

        This is an area where we need continued education with SMEs, as the conventions used for documents and presentations do not apply to packaged learning. Instructional design, LMS constraints, and compliance requirements mean that the learning team has to apply specific standards, even when this is different from what is normally done in day-to-day work. It is simply something that has been pandered to. Yet, ask them later if behaviour change has been measured, they wont be able to tell you as they stop once the course is published. Or, why do they wonder no one has learned anything. This is another area now that has to be focused on.

        For this reason, decisions about how content is implemented in a module cannot be based only on what is most convenient for content owners. The learning team needs to follow established best practices and those standards need to be respected once agreed, otherwise we end up with avoidable issues such as broken links, rework after publication, and inconsistent learner experience. Which is all the time and it needs to change.

        There is clear guidance on this in SCORM / LMS implementation guidance, eLearning Guild design recommendations, and ISO learning and development standards, all of which state that learning content should be self-contained, version-controlled, and not dependent on external live documents. Most learning teams are not even aware themselves and are often accepting guidance from people who are not knowledgeable on Adult learning and LMS best practises. My team and I do not take instructions from SME's or stakeholders on learning best practises, just as, when we create compliance training for example, we do not question compliance laws or best practises and make recommendations that we like. Its not how it works. If a tick box exercise is required, I tell them to go somewhere else. Its all about the needs of the learners and what they want to learn and how they want to learn it.

        Applying these standards consistently is not about preference, it is necessary to ensure modules work correctly for learners and remain compliant after release.