Knowledge Check Review Going in Circles

Jun 23, 2021

Amitty Gray
By Amitty Gray

Hi all,

I'm sure there is a better way to do what I'm trying to do, but I gave it my best shot and so naturally, I broke something along the way. There a couple things I need help with on this. 1) I have a drag and drop knowledge check set for two opportunities to get the answers correct. So if they match the answers incorrectly on the first try, they get the Try Again page which takes them back to the base layer for their second attempt. If they get it wrong again, they get the Incorrect page on which they have to click continue to get to the next slide, and then can click to review their answers. I feel like there MUST be a better way to do this, but I just couldn't get it, so I'm open to suggestions here. 😅 2) I have the next button disabled at the start of timeline and I want it to return to a normal state once the knowledge check has been completed, which would either be by getting it correct or by exhausting their two attempts. How do I accomplish this? 3) I'd like the Submit button to go away or disable once they've been routed to the review answers page because I think it's confusing that it should be there once the quiz is over, but I can't figure out how to do that because it may need to be used twice if a second attempt is required.

So right now, my quiz is just taking me in circles and I can't find my way out. I hope at least some of this made sense! Attaching the story here.

7 Replies
Judy Nollet
almost 3 years ago06/24/21 at 1:24 pm (UTC)

Hi, Ammity,

1. That's how questions with multiple attempts work. 

  • FYI: I initially thought you must have custom programming, because you referred to Try Again and Incorrect pages. "Pages" would typically correlate with slides. Try Again, Incorrect, and Correct are layers.

2. Add a trigger on the Incorrect and Correct layers that enables your custom Next button. (Yes, the Correct layer already has the Continue button to go to the next slide. But a separate trigger to enable your custom Next button will ensure it's usable when the user returns. 

  • There's a bug that executes when-timeline-starts triggers even when resuming a slide's saved state. So you either need to control your disable-Next button with a variable and a condition, or have it execute a bit later. 

3. Similar to #2. Add a trigger on the Incorrect and Correct layers that hides the Submit button.  

Amitty Gray
almost 3 years ago06/30/21 at 5:10 pm (UTC)

I am not going around in circles anymore - it's just the Next button that's giving me grief now. I've tried so many different things but I can't seem to figure out where the hang up is in getting the state of the Next button back to normal. It stays disabled through the two allowable attempts, which is what I want, but when the user gets to the Review Results page, the Next button remains disabled. I've tried setting triggers on the layer buttons as well as using custom variables but I'm still stuck. 😞 Currently, I have the Try Again layer with a custom variable trigger set to true when the timeline starts on that layer (also tried the variable thing when the button was clicked). Then after the second failed attempt they get the Incorrect layer, where I added a trigger to change the Next button to normal if the value of the Try Again layer was true...spoiler - this didn't work.

I did however, get the Submit issue fixed, so thanks for that!  Slides attached if anyone can make sense of my slide triggers.

Maria Costa-Stienstra
almost 3 years ago06/30/21 at 7:42 pm (UTC)

Hi, Amitty.

Thank you for sharing your .story file, and I'm glad Judy was able to help you with some of your questions!

Since you're using the Review Results as a way to re-enable the Nextbutton_1, you can add a trigger using the Review button and a True/False variable (let's call it Reviewed):

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On Slide 1.1, change the trigger that disables Nextbutton_1 to only work if the Reviewed variable is false:

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I am attaching the .story file here with those changes.

Let me know if this works!

Amitty Gray
almost 3 years ago07/14/21 at 9:23 pm (UTC)

Hi Maria,

I broke it again. :(  Aesthetically, I HATED the previous drag and drop so I changed it and now I'm having trouble with the review results part again. I added a Review Layer because I want the students to see the answers matched up correctly versus what they got wrong. When I click on the "Review Results" button, I can see my little arrows connecting the phrases to the correct answers, but I also see the big red INCORRECT box from the Incorrect layer. When I go into Feedback Master, I'm not getting the option to get rid of it, so I'm not sure how I managed to loop these together or how to get out of it. Any suggestions?

Judy Nollet
almost 3 years ago07/15/21 at 12:53 pm (UTC)

Hi again, Amitty,

The red INCORRECT and green CORRECT banners are built into the Review Quiz functionality. They will appear whether or not you also have a Review layer. And there's no way to edit or delete them.

You can, however, hide them by covering them with an object on the Review layer. Just put something across the lower part of the layer. 

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