I was trying to set up a quiz where the user loses points if they select the wrong answer. But, it seems I can't set up negative point values in the responses.
Ben - do you know what Phil means by creating the custom, freeform questions and then importing them into a question bank? That way you can create negative point values and get the benefit of question banks.
I have figured this out. I created a variable called "Score". With the questions in the question bank, I originally created them with the correct/incorrect feedback layers. In this case, the correct layer only shows a flying green check mark and the incorrect layer shows a similar flying red X mark. The layer only shows for 1/2 second and immediately takes you to the next question. My quiz has a 1 min time limit. The timed quiz function doesn't work right with a question bank, so I had to create my own timer which stops the quiz after the minute runs out.
Since I had these layers available, I put a trigger on each layer which adds or subtracts points depending on whether you got the question right. Instead of the usual Results variable I am just displaying "Score".
The nice thing about this is I didn't have to create FreeForm questions. These are just the standard T/F questions. SInce I was using the Correct/Incorrect layers, it was easy to add the variable adjustment on each layer.
Following along here. I like the idea of not needing to set up a freeform, but instead use existing quizzes. I didn't use quiz banks, but otherwise tried to follow along with what Ben did (or my interpretation of same ), and created a 5-question T/F quiz with negative/positive displaying on correct/incorrect layers. I removed the percent from the results slide to just display scores.
Then I was wondering about creating a running score as the quiz progresses: each slide showing the tally to that point. I started out OK by creating a trigger with slide 1 showing 0, and then showing 10 or -10 depending on whether the answer was correct.
But then I began thinking I'd have to create a gazillion triggers as I went along because of all the potential scores
Slide 2 could = 20 if both answers to that point were right, -20 if both were wrong, 0 if one was right and one was wrong
And that would grow exponentially for each added question (I think).
So is it doable?
I'm uploading what I did. I think I probably should have modified the correct/incorrect on the Feedback master instead of on each slide (I copied/pasted to save time, but still), yes?
Just through the quiz together...it's not anything I'm really using (obviously).
I am traveling this weekend and don't have access to StoryLine. But, if I understand you correctly, everything you described can be done on the slide master which you use for the questions. You can set up a text box to display "Score" on the slide and have that variable adjusted as the person is answering each question.
For the negative point values you can use a standard t/f question but you just add a trigger to the correct and incorrect answers which add or subtract points. If you are only doing a few questions it isn't that hard. My quiz has 40 questions in a question bank and it only took me about 30 minutes to roll through each one of them to add all the triggers.
I hope I understood you correctly. Sorry I can't see your Story file for now.
This is very strange. I updated a post here a couple hours ago, and now it's gone. Just saying, so if y'all see it twice, you'll know why.
Ben, I've put everything on masters, thanks.
What I don't understand how to do (and you may have explained it there, but I totally missed it) is how to show the "current value" as the Learner answers questions on successive slides. So in my first rendition without using feedback and regular masters, and in this attached one using them, I DO understand how to get the score for that particular slide to appear on the page. But what I'd like to do is this:
Learner gets Slide 1 question one correct. 10 points displays on the feedback "layer." Total score, 10, shows on the slide in the top right
Learner gets Slide 2 question two correct. 10 points displays on the feedback layer. Total of 20 shows on the slide, top right.
Learner gets Slide 3, question three incorrect. -10 points displays on the feedback layer. Total of 10 shows on the slide, top right.
ETC
Tx to anyone who can help! I've uploaded what I've done this far.
Take a look at this. It's working now. I added two more variables to get you a rolling total and an individual slide total on each slide. Plus I added a 3rd finalTotal variable to "lock" down the final score because it will get messed up if you review the questions.
Tx for your help. Ben, I'm going to download this now and see if I understood what y'all did. Not sure when I'll get to it, but certainly in the next coupla'.
Tx, too, for making notes on the slides. I do this all the time. I find it to be the MOST convenient place to keep notes on stories that I'm using for learning. I even created a Screenr about it!
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Hi Ben,
The built-in quiz functionality doesn't let you assign negative values, but you can create negative values using a freeform approach.
Here's a quick demo and source files. I'll put a Screenr together a little later tonight, but this should give you enough to get started.
Demo
Source
Thanks David,
There is no way to work with the Question Bank to get random question draw when you use a free-form method like this, right?
This will certainly work. I appreciate the help very much.
You should be able to use the quizbank random draw and use a custom score variable. You would have to build your own results slide.
Ben - do you know what Phil means by creating the custom, freeform questions and then importing them into a question bank? That way you can create negative point values and get the benefit of question banks.
Let me know if you have a question about that.
Sorry, I am preparing for two presentations tomorrow and didn't really give much info in that post. Thanks David for catching that
I have figured this out. I created a variable called "Score". With the questions in the question bank, I originally created them with the correct/incorrect feedback layers. In this case, the correct layer only shows a flying green check mark and the incorrect layer shows a similar flying red X mark. The layer only shows for 1/2 second and immediately takes you to the next question. My quiz has a 1 min time limit. The timed quiz function doesn't work right with a question bank, so I had to create my own timer which stops the quiz after the minute runs out.
Since I had these layers available, I put a trigger on each layer which adds or subtracts points depending on whether you got the question right. Instead of the usual Results variable I am just displaying "Score".
The nice thing about this is I didn't have to create FreeForm questions. These are just the standard T/F questions. SInce I was using the Correct/Incorrect layers, it was easy to add the variable adjustment on each layer.
It works perfectly now.
Thanks for your help.
Hi All,
Following along here. I like the idea of not needing to set up a freeform, but instead use existing quizzes. I didn't use quiz banks, but otherwise tried to follow along with what Ben did (or my interpretation of same
), and created a 5-question T/F quiz with negative/positive displaying on correct/incorrect layers. I removed the percent from the results slide to just display scores.
Then I was wondering about creating a running score as the quiz progresses: each slide showing the tally to that point. I started out OK by creating a trigger with slide 1 showing 0, and then showing 10 or -10 depending on whether the answer was correct.
But then I began thinking I'd have to create a gazillion triggers as I went along because of all the potential scores
Slide 2 could = 20 if both answers to that point were right, -20 if both were wrong, 0 if one was right and one was wrong
And that would grow exponentially for each added question (I think).
So is it doable?
I'm uploading what I did. I think I probably should have modified the correct/incorrect on the Feedback master instead of on each slide (I copied/pasted to save time, but still), yes?
Just through the quiz together...it's not anything I'm really using (obviously).
Hi Rebecca,
I am traveling this weekend and don't have access to StoryLine. But, if I understand you correctly, everything you described can be done on the slide master which you use for the questions. You can set up a text box to display "Score" on the slide and have that variable adjusted as the person is answering each question.
For the negative point values you can use a standard t/f question but you just add a trigger to the correct and incorrect answers which add or subtract points. If you are only doing a few questions it isn't that hard. My quiz has 40 questions in a question bank and it only took me about 30 minutes to roll through each one of them to add all the triggers.
I hope I understood you correctly. Sorry I can't see your Story file for now.
This is very strange. I updated a post here a couple hours ago, and now it's gone. Just saying, so if y'all see it twice, you'll know why.
Ben, I've put everything on masters, thanks.
What I don't understand how to do (and you may have explained it there, but I totally missed it) is how to show the "current value" as the Learner answers questions on successive slides. So in my first rendition without using feedback and regular masters, and in this attached one using them, I DO understand how to get the score for that particular slide to appear on the page. But what I'd like to do is this:
Tx to anyone who can help! I've uploaded what I've done this far.
Hi Rebecca,
Here is a suggestion.
You can add two triggers to the slide saying
Adjust variable score / add / Value / 10 / when user's clicks / Submit button / if Button True / Equal / Selected
Adjust variable score / substract / Value / 10 / when user's clicks / Submit button / if Button False / Equal / Selected
I think it should give you what you want... just testing right now!
Have a nice weekend!
Annie
Looks like I have a problem, it is not working properly on my end...
Take a look at this. It's working now. I added two more variables to get you a rolling total and an individual slide total on each slide. Plus I added a 3rd finalTotal variable to "lock" down the final score because it will get messed up if you review the questions.
There are some notes on a couple of slides.
Hope this helps
Ben
Hey Ben and Annie,
Tx for your help. Ben, I'm going to download this now and see if I understood what y'all did. Not sure when I'll get to it, but certainly in the next coupla'.
Tx, too, for making notes on the slides. I do this all the time. I find it to be the MOST convenient place to keep notes on stories that I'm using for learning. I even created a Screenr about it!
https://player.vimeo.com/video/149186462
For some reason, I can't view your demo or source answer. Will you be kind and share it in your own words?
I'm really struggling with this because I need an automatic result page after this.