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Issue: SCORM 2004 v 3 & 4 courses getting stuck on random slides within an online course in our PeopleSoft LMS: next and submit buttons don't work. Strangely, some learners successfully complete the course the first time through; others have to retry multiple times (and progress is NEVER saved when this issue occurs); still others never successfully get through.
When/Where: randomly at any time, for any learner, in any browser, in any course (Rise and Storyline) in our LMS (PeopleSoft).
Can it be replicated? Yes. Though the issue occurs randomly, I can replicate the exact same issue every time when I manually disconnect my network cable, then reconnect. There's no indication that my connection dropped, but upon reconnect, the course is 'stuck'. The only way to exit it at that point is to close the window or use the browser's back button is the only option to get out--and doing so does NOT save progress, even if progress had been saved previously.
What we've tried: clearing cache; multiple browsers; changing player settings (launch in new window and/or using the connectivity alert). Previous research informed us if we use SCORM 2004, our LMS requires either V3 or V4 and the Passed/Failed or Passed/Incomplete options, so we did not re-test those settings.
Testing: one of the courses was tested in SCORMCloud and Reach 360 successfully--it never got permanently stuck in either LMS upon disconnect/reconnect. Also tested a sample SCORM 2004 V3 course from another vendor in our PeopleSoft LMS--that course was successful, never getting permanently stuck in the course.
Question: is there a setting I'm missing? Do we need to alter our js files? I'm planning to compare the published output from the sample SCORM course from the other vendor to our published output files, but there are a LOT of files to look at. Does anyone have tips on what files to focus on? js? xsd? xml? Or ideas on what else to check?
We did mostly resolve this issue...it appears to have been some setting in PeopleSoft ELM LMS. Since we have our own server-based version of PeopleSoft, and finding programmers for that in -house, it's difficult to figure out those little switches that can affect these things, but our folks were able to greatly reduce the instances of this occurring with a programming switch of some kind on the LMS. We still do have some once in a great while, but the major issue seems to be mitigated.
Hi Steven, thanks for the response. Yes, I should have mentioned...we have worked with our LMS vendor (Oracle). I provided them with debug logs. They responded with a test file (I'm not sure which product produced that file--it's not Articulate products) which worked just fine: upon disconnect, the course displayed an offline message; on reconnect, the course reconnected to the LMS and continued just fine, capturing the results perfectly. So Oracle is saying it's our Articulate output. I feel like I'm stuck in the middle with Oracle and Articulate pointing fingers at each other. I'm digging through the output files of the Oracle sample course and a Rise course to try to find what's different, but there are so many files, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack...and I'm not super familiar with xml or js. :(
Sorry to hear your courses are getting stuck when viewed through your LMS! Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting steps you've tried so far!
Since the behavior is widespread across all courses, and the same problem cannot be replicated in SCORM Cloud, it's likely the issue is related to the LMS. Are you able to connect with your LMS administrator? They may request a debug log to help them dig deeper into the root cause.
In the meantime, I'm hopeful other community members working with PeopleSoft can offer insight or suggestions!
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Issue: SCORM 2004 v 3 & 4 courses getting stuck on random slides within an online course in our PeopleSoft LMS: next and submit buttons don't work. Strangely, some learners successfully complete the course the first time through; others have to retry multiple times (and progress is NEVER saved when this issue occurs); still others never successfully get through.
When/Where: randomly at any time, for any learner, in any browser, in any course (Rise and Storyline) in our LMS (PeopleSoft).
Can it be replicated? Yes. Though the issue occurs randomly, I can replicate the exact same issue every time when I manually disconnect my network cable, then reconnect. There's no indication that my connection dropped, but upon reconnect, the course is 'stuck'. The only way to exit it at that point is to close the window or use the browser's back button is the only option to get out--and doing so does NOT save progress, even if progress had been saved previously.
What we've tried: clearing cache; multiple browsers; changing player settings (launch in new window and/or using the connectivity alert). Previous research informed us if we use SCORM 2004, our LMS requires either V3 or V4 and the Passed/Failed or Passed/Incomplete options, so we did not re-test those settings.
Testing: one of the courses was tested in SCORMCloud and Reach 360 successfully--it never got permanently stuck in either LMS upon disconnect/reconnect. Also tested a sample SCORM 2004 V3 course from another vendor in our PeopleSoft LMS--that course was successful, never getting permanently stuck in the course.
Question: is there a setting I'm missing? Do we need to alter our js files? I'm planning to compare the published output from the sample SCORM course from the other vendor to our published output files, but there are a LOT of files to look at. Does anyone have tips on what files to focus on? js? xsd? xml? Or ideas on what else to check?
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Issue: SCORM 2004 v 3 & 4 courses getting stuck on random slides within an online course in our PeopleSoft LMS: next and submit buttons don't work. Strangely, some learners successfully complete the course the first time through; others have to retry multiple times (and progress is NEVER saved when this issue occurs); still others never successfully get through.
When/Where: randomly at any time, for any learner, in any browser, in any course (Rise and Storyline) in our LMS (PeopleSoft).
Can it be replicated? Yes. Though the issue occurs randomly, I can replicate the exact same issue every time when I manually disconnect my network cable, then reconnect. There's no indication that my connection dropped, but upon reconnect, the course is 'stuck'. The only way to exit it at that point is to close the window or use the browser's back button is the only option to get out--and doing so does NOT save progress, even if progress had been saved previously.
What we've tried: clearing cache; multiple browsers; changing player settings (launch in new window and/or using the connectivity alert). Previous research informed us if we use SCORM 2004, our LMS requires either V3 or V4 and the Passed/Failed or Passed/Incomplete options, so we did not re-test those settings.
Testing: one of the courses was tested in SCORMCloud and Reach 360 successfully--it never got permanently stuck in either LMS upon disconnect/reconnect. Also tested a sample SCORM 2004 V3 course from another vendor in our PeopleSoft LMS--that course was successful, never getting permanently stuck in the course.
Question: is there a setting I'm missing? Do we need to alter our js files? I'm planning to compare the published output from the sample SCORM course from the other vendor to our published output files, but there are a LOT of files to look at. Does anyone have tips on what files to focus on? js? xsd? xml? Or ideas on what else to check?
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SinchuRaj-Really????!!! That would be fantastic! What would you need to debug? Logs? .js? Published output files?
Hello, just curious if you had any luck resolving this issue?
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Thanks.
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We did mostly resolve this issue...it appears to have been some setting in PeopleSoft ELM LMS. Since we have our own server-based version of PeopleSoft, and finding programmers for that in -house, it's difficult to figure out those little switches that can affect these things, but our folks were able to greatly reduce the instances of this occurring with a programming switch of some kind on the LMS. We still do have some once in a great while, but the major issue seems to be mitigated.
We did mostly resolve this issue...it appears to have been some setting in PeopleSoft ELM LMS. Since we have our own server-based version of PeopleSoft, and finding programmers for that in -house, it's difficult to figure out those little switches that can affect these things, but our folks were able to greatly reduce the instances of this occurring with a programming switch of some kind on the LMS. We still do have some once in a great while, but the major issue seems to be mitigated.
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Hello Brenda , I will be able to debug the issue and find a solution. Let me know if you would like to get on a call and discuss it further.
Hello Brenda , I will be able to debug the issue and find a solution. Let me know if you would like to get on a call and discuss it further.
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Hi Steven, thanks for the response. Yes, I should have mentioned...we have worked with our LMS vendor (Oracle). I provided them with debug logs. They responded with a test file (I'm not sure which product produced that file--it's not Articulate products) which worked just fine: upon disconnect, the course displayed an offline message; on reconnect, the course reconnected to the LMS and continued just fine, capturing the results perfectly. So Oracle is saying it's our Articulate output. I feel like I'm stuck in the middle with Oracle and Articulate pointing fingers at each other. I'm digging through the output files of the Oracle sample course and a Rise course to try to find what's different, but there are so many files, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack...and I'm not super familiar with xml or js. :(
Hi Steven, thanks for the response. Yes, I should have mentioned...we have worked with our LMS vendor (Oracle). I provided them with debug logs. They responded with a test file (I'm not sure which product produced that file--it's not Articulate products) which worked just fine: upon disconnect, the course displayed an offline message; on reconnect, the course reconnected to the LMS and continued just fine, capturing the results perfectly. So Oracle is saying it's our Articulate output. I feel like I'm stuck in the middle with Oracle and Articulate pointing fingers at each other. I'm digging through the output files of the Oracle sample course and a Rise course to try to find what's different, but there are so many files, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack...and I'm not super familiar with xml or js. :(
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Sorry to hear your courses are getting stuck when viewed through your LMS! Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting steps you've tried so far!
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Since the behavior is widespread across all courses, and the same problem cannot be replicated in SCORM Cloud, it's likely the issue is related to the LMS. Are you able to connect with your LMS administrator? They may request a debug log to help them dig deeper into the root cause.
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In the meantime, I'm hopeful other community members working with PeopleSoft can offer insight or suggestions!
Sorry to hear your courses are getting stuck when viewed through your LMS! Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting steps you've tried so far!
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Since the behavior is widespread across all courses, and the same problem cannot be replicated in SCORM Cloud, it's likely the issue is related to the LMS. Are you able to connect with your LMS administrator? They may request a debug log to help them dig deeper into the root cause.
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In the meantime, I'm hopeful other community members working with PeopleSoft can offer insight or suggestions!
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