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MelissaMorri679
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10 years ago

Passed/Failed vs Passed/Incomplete Reporting

I've been trying to find someplace that specifies the difference between LMS Reporting for Passed/Failed and Passed/Incomplete. None of the articles I am finding seem to actually tell me what the di...
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ChristiePollick's avatar
ChristiePollick
Community Member
10 years ago

Hi, Melissa -- It can vary depending on the LMS, and although I am not sure what LMS provider you are using, you may find the explanation offered by Brian Allen (one of the Heroes here in the community) to be helpful. Referring to the SumTotal LMS, Brian shared the following over here in this similar post:

Here are the LMS reporting options we mostly use when publishing from Articulate for SumTotal LMS, and the scenarios for which we use them -

  1. Completed/Incomplete: We use this for any unscored content where we are tracking completion based on slide views. If the minimum number of slides are viewed, then the user is marked as completed. If not they are left in progress.
  2. Passed/Incomplete: We use this for scored content where we want the user to be left in progress if they do not achieve the minimum passing score. If the user achieves the minimum passing score they are marked as completed/passed with score, if not they remain in progress and no score is passed to SumTotal, allowing them to try again.
  3. Passed/Failed: We use this on a limited basis, primarily for things like compliance or certification activities where we want to record a failed status. If the user achieves the minimum passing score they are marked as completed/passed with score, if not they are marked as completed/failed with score. This is especially useful if you want to limit number of attempts through a learning activity for the purpose of assigning remedial training, etc., in the event of someone failing.

My guess is that these reporting options will function fairly similarly for any LMS.

  • KatheirneMurphy's avatar
    KatheirneMurphy
    Community Member
    8 years ago

    This is so helpful!  One small question, you mention (in the Passed/Failed section) "...This is especially useful if you want to limit number of attempts through a learning activity"...

    We have a certification and we want to say "Fail it once, try again, Fail it twice - mark as completed (no retaking) and you're out".  But I don't see a way to set Storyline to define that, so is that an LMS setting?  We use Cornerstone - if anyone knows specifically!

    Thanks so much!

  • PaulaObrien-3a7's avatar
    PaulaObrien-3a7
    Community Member
    6 years ago

    Unfortunately, these settings are not working correctly in our PeopleSoft LMS. I want the course to be marked Completed if they look at a certain number of slides (I set the threshold as low as 40 out of 58). We are training doctors, and "suggest" module repeat if they don't pass but we do not want to prevent the course from being marked "complete" as long as they went through it. I need a Completed/Passed option as well because my learner got a 90% on the assessment, so it should say Completed and Passed; it shows "attended" passing status "Fail" and Completion status "not completed." 

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I've been trying to find someplace that specifies the difference between LMS Reporting for Passed/Failed and Passed/Incomplete. None of the articles I am finding seem to actually tell me what the difference is between them.

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Would someone please explain? 

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I've been trying to find someplace that specifies the difference between LMS Reporting for Passed/Failed and Passed/Incomplete. None of the articles I am finding seem to actually tell me what the difference is between them.

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Would someone please explain? 

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Hi, Melissa -- It can vary depending on the LMS, and although I am not sure what LMS provider you are using, you may find the explanation offered by Brian Allen (one of the Heroes here in the community) to be helpful. Referring to the SumTotal LMS, Brian shared the following over here in this similar post:

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Here are the LMS reporting options we mostly use when publishing from Articulate for SumTotal LMS, and the scenarios for which we use them -

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  1. Completed/Incomplete: We use this for any unscored content where we are tracking completion based on slide views. If the minimum number of slides are viewed, then the user is marked as completed. If not they are left in progress.
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  2. Passed/Incomplete: We use this for scored content where we want the user to be left in progress if they do not achieve the minimum passing score. If the user achieves the minimum passing score they are marked as completed/passed with score, if not they remain in progress and no score is passed to SumTotal, allowing them to try again.
    3. \n
  3. Passed/Failed: We use this on a limited basis, primarily for things like compliance or certification activities where we want to record a failed status. If the user achieves the minimum passing score they are marked as completed/passed with score, if not they are marked as completed/failed with score. This is especially useful if you want to limit number of attempts through a learning activity for the purpose of assigning remedial training, etc., in the event of someone failing.
    4. \n
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My guess is that these reporting options will function fairly similarly for any LMS.

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Hi, Melissa -- It can vary depending on the LMS, and although I am not sure what LMS provider you are using, you may find the explanation offered by Brian Allen (one of the Heroes here in the community) to be helpful. Referring to the SumTotal LMS, Brian shared the following over here in this similar post:

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Here are the LMS reporting options we mostly use when publishing from Articulate for SumTotal LMS, and the scenarios for which we use them -

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    \n
  1. Completed/Incomplete: We use this for any unscored content where we are tracking completion based on slide views. If the minimum number of slides are viewed, then the user is marked as completed. If not they are left in progress.
    2. \n
  2. Passed/Incomplete: We use this for scored content where we want the user to be left in progress if they do not achieve the minimum passing score. If the user achieves the minimum passing score they are marked as completed/passed with score, if not they remain in progress and no score is passed to SumTotal, allowing them to try again.
    3. \n
  3. Passed/Failed: We use this on a limited basis, primarily for things like compliance or certification activities where we want to record a failed status. If the user achieves the minimum passing score they are marked as completed/passed with score, if not they are marked as completed/failed with score. This is especially useful if you want to limit number of attempts through a learning activity for the purpose of assigning remedial training, etc., in the event of someone failing.
    4. \n
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My guess is that these reporting options will function fairly similarly for any LMS.

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This is so helpful!  One small question, you mention (in the Passed/Failed section) \"...This is especially useful if you want to limit number of attempts through a learning activity\"...

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We have a certification and we want to say \"Fail it once, try again, Fail it twice - mark as completed (no retaking) and you're out\".  But I don't see a way to set Storyline to define that, so is that an LMS setting?  We use Cornerstone - if anyone knows specifically!

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Thanks so much!

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Unfortunately, these settings are not working correctly in our PeopleSoft LMS. I want the course to be marked Completed if they look at a certain number of slides (I set the threshold as low as 40 out of 58). We are training doctors, and \"suggest\" module repeat if they don't pass but we do not want to prevent the course from being marked \"complete\" as long as they went through it. I need a Completed/Passed option as well because my learner got a 90% on the assessment, so it should say Completed and Passed; it shows \"attended\" passing status \"Fail\" and Completion status \"not completed.\" 

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