Radio button and checkbox - reduce bounding box size

OK, I can get the toggling effect by using the Operator = NOT assignment so I could build my own radio buttons and check boxes to get around the problem. 

I would however like to know if the bounding box sizes can be changed.

Hi Trevor,

Thanks for reaching out here - and there isn't a way to change the bounding box overall size but I'm curious how much overlap you saw? If it seems beyond the "normal" it's something we could have our team take a look at. If you've got a screenshot or .story file to share here we're happy to take a look. 

Hi Ashley, As I'm using the smallest of the radio button and checkbox options the bounding boxes are more of an issue than the standard question type size. These smaller ones are excellent for advanced system simulations as they match IE and Chrome browser sizes but it does mean they are likely to be close together as in an online form. I'll post you a story file tomorrow.

If the bounding boxes don't have to be that large it would be great if they could be made smaller in a later release.

Hi Trevor,

I'd leave the decision and rationale behind their size up to our Product team, but happy to take a look at your sample and compare it to mine to see if there is anything different happening. If it's determined the be that size by default it's certainly something we can share as a feature idea. 

Two thoughts, You could put an invisible shape over the boxes that would prevent them from being clicked. Then put small invisible shapes over each button that could be clicked on. That may be a lot easier than building the buttons from scratch. Alternatively, you could replace the buttons with copies of them that do not have the too-large border.

The point is, that however you do it, if you use states named Selected and Normal, you will get those behaviors without having to write your own triggers. Select the appropriate group of buttons, right click, and make them a button set, and you will have all the exact same behaviors as the built-in buttons.

And no, it is not you; the built-in borders on radio and check buttons are unreasonable oversized.

Hi Walt, The Selected and Normal states in a button group works fine for radio buttons as they will deselect a different previously selected radio button. However with checkboxes where you need to allow multiple selected boxes and also be able to deselect a box by clicking it again the only solution is the use triggers and a toggle behaviour.

Hi Ashley, attached is a single slide story file where the radio buttons and checkboxes are placed over a background from a system screen. You will see that the bounding boxes cause major overlapping.

Thanks Trevor - I'll take a look at this file and let you know if I spot something out of order or if it looks to be as expected based on the bounding boxes. 

Thanks. This is a simple file with the basic objects, no triggers etc. But you should see that in preview when trying to click specific radio buttons or checkboxes you are actually selecting different objects based on the stacking order.

Thanks Trevor - you really put those close together! 

I took a look and confirmed with a few others (it matched a brand new file too) and it seems that the box can't be shrunk smaller than 49 x 61 and the bounding box will scale around it, but won't go smaller than you're seeing. Typically the bounding box is set as such to include the text associated with a potential answer as well - in a standard set up it seems I could insert one 12pt character before the box expands/wraps the text.

So it seems that you'll either need to look at spacing the buttons out further or turn each button into an image so that you can crop fully down to the size required and then add the associated states of selected - you should only have to do one button and then duplicate it. You can still use the images as buttons in terms of submitting a user's answer to a question using a freeform style question and if needing the user to only pick one, create a button set out of your images.