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TIP: Build a Rise Course with a Pretest
There is a way to include a pretest in a Rise course!
Rise doesn't have pretest functionality built in—at least, not yet. But it can be done using a few Storyline blocks, some button blocks, and navigation restrictions.
This demo shows how to let a user skip the content if they pass. If they fail, they have to go through the content.
Caveats: The program can't tell the LMS if the user passed the pretest or if they went through the content. And it can't tell the LMS the user's score. But it can tell the LMS that the user "completed" the course.
*** UPDATE 2024-01-17 ***
As per Ingrid Marcum's comments below, there's another caveat. If a user fails the pretest, exits the course before proceeding to the content, and then relaunches the course, the Storyline block will reset. In other words, the user would be able to retake the pretest. As Ingrid said, the Articulate staff "confirmed that the storyline blocks will always reset when revisiting the page in Rise." So, alas, this method isn't a solution if you're concerned about users doing that.
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Judy this looks fantastic, but I am quite stuck. I can't seem to configure it so that if the storyline quiz is not passed it will not show the continue button. The continue button seems to show whether they pass or fail. How have you configured the completion trigger?
As it says in the instructions included in the Rise example, the Storyline quiz has a completion trigger on the Success layer of its Results slide.
In Rise, the Continue button will only be enabled when that Storyline block is completed. So if the user passes the pretest, the completion trigger will fire, and the Continue button in Rise will be enabled. If the user fails the pretest, the Storyline block can't be completed, so the Continue button won't be enabled.
Also, I neglected to say thank you to Judy! This is a terrific work-around, and thanks for posting! :)
Right on Nate! " It's those caveats that kill me...." haha! There for sure is some wonkiness in going from SL to Rise, particularly when it comes to having this all play nice with our LMS. I have learned to set the bar lower when using the "combo" method. :)
This is very similar to a solution I used. It's those caveats that kill me. I've found its often a problem with both the LMS and SL or even just the LMS used. It looks like many LMS will only record one score and just write over that score with any quiz. unless there is specifically a table for it to score different types of assessment that are labeled as such in the SCORM then were out of luck.
I honestly try to push back on Pre-Tests as much as possible as the data they provide is often never used or not used well. If they want a "test out" there are loads of things like this example that are perfect. But ultimately if I push and ask what the collected data for the per/post-test is going to be used for they don't have an answer so I just tell them i they want a test out option we can do that but feed them these same caveats.
Good points, Nate.
I think it makes sense to use pretests to allow users to skip content that they already know. Of course, that assumes that the pretest has good questions...
I've seen lots of posts about the need for having scores sent to the LMS. But I wonder how often those scores are ever used -- or even looked at. Is someone's performance review impacted because they passed with 80% instead of 100%?
I've also seen posts about the need for sending response info to the LMS. That could be very useful, especially if it's used to evaluate the validity of the questions. For example, if just about everyone answers the same question incorrectly in the same way, then there's probably something wrong with the question, and/or in how the related content is presented. But I don't know many depts that are actually doing that sort of analysis.
Personally, if I were going to develop a course with a pretest, I'd probably do it in Storyline, since that has the functionality built-in, without having to give up the menu and such. I developed the Rise demo to help the folks in the Forum who've asked about pretests in Rise.
Are you willing to share the storyline file so I can have a play with this option? greg.ward@newcastle.edu.au . I am not great with Storyline, so this would save me some time.
