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Which LMS is best for Rise Courses?
Hey people! I need an LMS to run courses created in Rise. Here's a list of features. Any recommendations?
e-Commerce:
- Learners can purchase course and watch it right away.
- Paypal or other easy payment system.
- Direct payments to multiple payees
- Require course completion in order to see/take assessment.
Admin functions:
- Advanced reporting
- Learner data on time spent in each course
- Automated quiz grading
- Certificate awarding when student completes course with 75% or higher.
- Interactive exercises and assessments.
- Custom branding
SCORM and API compliant.
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Hi Leila,
There are so many LMSs out there that unfortunately, I'm not able to recommend a specific one for you. Hopefully, someone in the community will be able to point you in the right direction!
- PhillipVerst603Community Member
I'm actually having trouble finding any that are fully compatible with Rise 360. Some suggestions in relation to the initial question really would be a big help. Passing the buck to the community is a disappointing reply.
- RibiccaMamuyeCommunity Member
Hi Phillip, I was having the same issue. Which ones have you looked at? Have you tried Docebo?
Hey Phillip!
Any LMS that supports AICC, SCORM 1.2, SCORM 2004, and xAPI (Tin Can API) standards will work with Rise 360.
Are you having any specific issues with Rise 360 content in the LMSs you've tested so far? I'd love to help!
- JanetteNicholsoCommunity Member
Having just completed an exhausting LMS selection process, I can honestly say that there are far too many considerations to selecting an LMS and that decision should be based on the company and possibly industry needs. Because you can publish your Rise courses to all the typical and standard industry outputs (Scorm, AICC and TinCan), your LMS choices would likely be in the hundreds.
There's a lot more to LMS selection than whether or not it will play content: budget, number of users, number of subportals, whether the LMS vendor offers 24/7 support, whether you can sync active directory through Microsoft Azure, if you can send a learner link by email once the course is published, whether or not you have to reversion a course with each update, etc. etc.
Even once you have found an LMS, always conduct multiple reference checks with other clients. Ask questions such as how supported they feel, what was their onboarding experience like, what would they change about their LMS, Ask for a sandbox environment so that you can experience what it will be like when you publish courses to it. What's the reporting like? How easy is it to find courses? How does the course library work for users, etc.
It is most certainly hard work - I've spent the last 3 weeks in a "spreadsheet comparison coma" but the good news is that I'm happy with the result! Never be afraid to put the time in and get what you need. What works for someone else may not work for you and, yes, some of us have found things out "the hard way" by putting in the legwork or making wrong decisions. Never leave a critical decision like this to a vendor that doesn't know your specific situation/business/industry.
- KarlMullerCommunity Member
The advice given by Janette is excellent.
Take the time and effort to make your LMS selection decision based on your actual requirements and try it out before you enter into an agreement if at all possible.
Having been through the LMS selection process several times, I don't see the value if Articulate providing a list of LMS's that work with RIse.
The way to do it is to prepare a list of training, business, infrastructure and IT requirements and then do the research to find the best fit.
In previous jobs the company selected the LMS simply because it was an add-on module to the software suite that they were already using. No consideration was given to any other requirements which was a big oversight.
Where I'm working now one of the considerations (of many) was the requirement that the LMS should have the ability to communicate with several of our IT systems that are all provided by other vendors.
I've been in the unfortunate situation where a previous employer did not do due diligence and a few years into one LMS found it was necessary to switch to a different one.
The learner data migration was an absolute nightmare.
So there is no quick and easy way to select a LMS.
- KarlMullerCommunity Member
There are of course LMS Consultants that can be hired to assist an organization to identify their LMS requirements, find the best match, and also assist with LMS implementation,
- HarryCarterCommunity Member
I deleted my last two posts because they didn't seem to be hitting the nail on the head, based on the replies that were coming my way.
I asked for a list of LMS's that Rise 360 could hook up to without incident. I just want to sell courses, not ream out cylinder heads.
Now, aside from art work, I would expect that an LMS could and would simply perform as it should...meaning interact with quizzes and tests. That's all I need.
I'm seeing things like, LMS's not reporting all of the time, sometimes reporting incorrectly, etc. This shouldn't be, period.
All motor vehicles are similar in that they perform the same basic function...getting people to their destination. But why don't LMS's perform this way all of the time and why isn't there a list of lousy LMS's and great LMS's...ESPECIALLY from a company (Articulate) that provides a software that is supposed to "talk turkey" with an LMS?
I just want to sell my courses to people, I don't want to spend 10+ years doing homework...I'd need 5 more lifetimes.
So far all replies to my question have been way off the mark or they were matter of fact in that they basically meant "well that's the way it is, too bad"...which never answered my question...at all.
Bottom line is...it WOULD be TREMENDOUSLY beneficial to me and others I'm sure, to be able to peruse a comprehensive list of tried and true LMS's that hook up to Rise 360.
And like I said...come on, true or false, hot spots, drag and drop...minimal variables.
Let me give you a for instance here...
I like TalentLMS except for the nagging and confusing envelope that Articulate needs to reside in if embedded. They have a nagging button message at bottom titled Course completed or Reset Unit and all that good stuff...that is aside from MY stuff. I had a half dozen people start a sample course and they were all confused. They couldn't wrap their head around the idea that that bottom message wasn't a part of what I created.
So yes, it would have been so much better if Articulate had TalentLMS on a list of possible LMS's and some of the pros and cons of them....instead of me investing so much time on it. BTW, the people at TalentLMS wrote that this couldn't be hidden, etc.
Bottom line again is that nothing will come of this because there doesn't seem to be a need from the people who don't see a need, lol.
Regards,
Harry
- JoshHarris-a008Community Member
I know this is a very old thread, but thought I'd chime in. I know exactly what you were thinking with this question, Harry...because it's one that I've had, often. Literally every LMS I've ever uploaded or tested a Rise course in simply doesn't display it in a way that's logical for the end user, or user friendly. They'll display it in a small iframe, which isn't intuitive for an end user to have to endlessly scroll through, only to have it load new content into the same frame when clicking "continue" at the bottom of a Rise "page." Or they display a "complete course" button beneath that iframe, with no way to disable and logically force the user to look for that "continue" button at the end of a Rise page. From my own exhaustive experience, I've decided that however modern and web-like a Rise course looks, it's simply not going to look how you want it to in any existing LMS. So I end up sticking with Storyline...which is simply not what I want.
Did you ever find a good solution?
- KarlMullerCommunity Member
HI JA,
When running a Rise course within a LMS, by default most LMS's will run the course within the LMS environment itself.
In those circumstances, what you say is mostly true.
However, there are a number of LMS's that give you the option to run the course is a new window. When a course is set up to run in a new window, the window with the LMS remains open in the background, while the course opens in its own full-screen window directly over the LMS window .
No components or any part of the LMS UI is visible or LMS UX in the course window.
So there is no iframe or other crude work-arounds.
When you exit a course, that window closes and you go back to the LMS window.
That is how we have set up our LMS, and our Rise courses look exactly like they do in the Rise development environment.
- KayTereraCommunity Member
I couldn't agree more with this comment. It would be so incredibly helpful if Articulate provided a list of Rise-compliant LMSs for those who want to sell their courses. Simple. I've been investigating this for weeks and have encountered so many headaches along the way.
Articulate staff, please give a list of tried and tested platforms that we can use as a starting point.
- JonathanBoehmanCommunity Member
Same boat here, Harry. We have prioritized the use of Rise360, as it is so simple to use. Creating eLearning is a secondary function for our group, and it's more important for us to get the content out there quickly and in a way that is usable.
Many LMSs seem to be playing catch-up when it comes to delivering a friendly mobile experience with responsive content like that exported from Rise.
I would love to hear of some examples from the community where they have had the Rise360 mobile courses display properly and in a user-friendly fashion.
- JonathanHoldenCommunity Member
Me too!
- LiselotteBje221Community Member
Anyone on this yet? I tried Learnworlds, but their player overlaps with the steps in Rise.
- TaylorAugerCommunity Member
The only one that I have found is Firmwater. In fact, their demo lesson are made from rise.
- CarriannLaneCommunity Member
Thanks Taylor!