Does anyone have experience with SAP LMS?
Nov 05, 2013
Hello, Everyone!
I am trying to help my client with testing of Storyline assessments on their LMS (SAP LMS).
They developed the SAP LMS Learning Net and did the assessment via their Learning Portal. The results are not writing back to the SAP LMS.
I have double checked the Storyline source file and it is properly published for LMS with the following options:
Include HTML 5 output: yes
Output options: SCORM 1.2
Reporting : results slide 1.5
Tracking: Quiz results slide 1.5
Reporting as: Passed/Incomplete
I have also loaded and run the Storyline SCORM file on our own LMS (Cornerstone OnDemand) and confirmed that the results do write back.
So the issue is not with the Storyline file - they do submit results.
My question is: Is anyone aware of any specific settings that are required (either on Storyline, or SAP) for the results to properly write back to SAP LMS?
24 Replies
Hi David,
I'm glad you were able to test it in another LMS to confirm that everything is functioning as desired, and I hope that someone in the community has some experience with SAP LMS to assist you here. Have you connected with the LMS support team to see if they have any advice to share?
Hi Ashley, my client is checking with his SAP team and I hope they can figure it out.
Still - if anyone has any useful tips or advice it will be appreciated
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Thanks David for the update, and I hope that other community members may have suggestions for you here as well.
Hi guys,
Any progress updates on this piece? I too have a client that is basing their decisions on whether or not to purchase Storyline as a result of...
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated...
Hi Jonathan and welcome to Heroes!
I don't see another reply from David here, but it since he was able to test it within another LMS it seemed to be specific to SAP. You may want to send him a private message to determine if he found a work around.
Did anyone find a solution yet for results not writing back to SAP LMS? I would be very thankful if there is a solution for this. The last time I tested, Storyline did not write back the results to SAP LMS.
Would it be worthwhile contacting the SAP LMS Vendor?
Hi Mark,
I don't see any other updates on this, but what you may want to do is reach out to those other users via a private message as I'm not certain they're still subscribed to this thread. Also, you could test your course at SCORM Cloud, which is an industry standard testing method for SCORM content and ensure it works as expected there. You would then want to share those results with your LMS team as they're your primary support for tracking and reporting issues. If you're able to determine a solution within SAP and are able to share that back here that would be really helpful for other users who come across this thread.
I've seen some LMSs be a little finicky on Reporting. I would definitely test the package with all 4 possibilities.
HI Duane - thanks for the feedback. We will test your advice.
To all the Heroes....
I still have issues with SAP LMS and Storyline2. The scores are not written back to SAP. In Moodle we had the same issue. We resolved it by changing the SCORM_PASSED and SCORM_FAILED variables in the SCORMFunctions.js file.
Changes made:
SCORM_PASSED = "completed"
SCORM_FAILED = "incomplete"
Orginally it was:
SCORM_PASSED = "passed"
SCORM_FAILED = "failed"
Even though the Report status to LMS is selected as Completed/Incomplete during publishing, it does not change it in the SCORMFunctions.js file.
I tried the same with SAP LMS, but without success. I am hoping that someone will be able to help with this query.
Regards
Mark
Hi Mark,
I can't speak to the changes you're making in the .js file - but have you already reviewed this article in regards to troubleshooting LMS issues, including testing at SCORM Cloud to see how it behaves vs. your LMS?
I'm having the same issues with a client and SAP now. It looks like Storyline is not compatible with SAP. My client now faces a big problem (and so may I :( )
Any other ideas or comments out there?
Lucia
We have implemented the following work around for Storyline in SAP LMS (Storyline Summative results are not writing back)
We developed the Summative with uPerform (SAP Productivity Pak). In the SAP Authoring Environment we created two Learning Objects: One for the Storyline eLearning Content and one for the uPerform Summative assessment. uPerform summative results do write back.
Hope this will help.
Regards
Hi Lucia,
I have heard of other users who mention using SAP and being able to work in Storyline - is there a specific problem you're having with the course? Have you reached out to your LMS team to see if they had additional ideas or suggestions?
Still got problems with SAP LMS or any other integration,
Here is something which will interest you and work for you at the same time,
http://www.hrsoftwarereview.com/question/want-to-implement-a-learning-management-system-with-sap/
Do let know if that helps.
Thanks Gabby for reaching out in this older thread, and although folks may non longer be subscribed but you may help someone else who stumbles upon this thread so it's appreciated!
We bought Storyline 2 and use SAP as LMS ( Scrom 2004 3rd ). Is there any Major Problem we should expect when starting to implement our Contents?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Hi Christian,
Have you tried uploading your course or run into any difficulty with this? It's a commonly mentioned LMS here in the ELH community, but not one that I remember a lot of users having difficulty with. If you do run into an issue you may want to take a look at the steps here that are used to troubleshoot an LMS by testing out in SCORM Cloud.
Thanks Ashley. No, not yet. We are at the beginning to work out our courses. And we want to avoid Problems when starting to implement.
If there is any Problem coming up, i will contact you again.
regards
Certainly understand Christian! I am not aware of a specific issue or anything to tell you to steer clear of, but I'd just confirm what publish settings your LMS requires (SCORM version, tracking/completion settings, etc.) and then you could also always look at testing it first in SCORM Cloud as I mentioned.
Hello Heroes!)
Look here:
var player = GetPlayer();
var scoreTotal = player.GetVar("TotalRes");
scoreTotal = parseInt(scoreTotal);
function findLMSAPI(win) {
if (win.hasOwnProperty("GetStudentID")) return win;
else if (win.parent == win) return null;
else return findLMSAPI(win.parent);
}
var lmsAPI = findLMSAPI(this);
SCORM2004_SetScore(scoreTotal, 100, 0);
lmsAPI.SetScore(scoreTotal, 100, 0);
SCORM2004_CallSetValue("cmi.completion_status", "completed");
SCORM2004_CallSetValue("cmi.success_status", "passed");
SetStatus("passed");
Source >>
Thanks for the link Andrey. The article looks interesting. Had to rely on google translate, but it seems to make sense. For those interested in the translated version https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://lifel.ru/blog/storyline/168-peredacha-otsenki-iz-storyline-v-lso-sap
@Chris Clift - does the solution you provided work. I am struggling with getting my course assessment results to show on SAP LSO version SAP LSOFE 617 (Learning Solution Front End 617) SAPK-0017 (Service Pak 17).
Any advice and solutions are welcome. Please!
I also find something interesting for SAP learning mobile, I created 2 Scorm files:
A) in English
B) in Chinese , duplicated from Eng version and import the translation
Both upload to the LMS at the same time within an item. Result :
A) it works fine
B) keep getting Error on content not available.
it is unbelievable, and finally I copy the Chinese slides to the English one and it works again but takes several minutes to load before start , which is not ideal.
Scorm cloud tested and it just make me feeling frustrated.