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Accessible Course - Issue using audio with forced navigation
Hello! I have been learning about making courses accessible. I have come across an issue with controlling audio along with forced navigation.
I have a small prototype with a few different slide se...
Thank you so much for the video and explanation Elizabeth! I appreciate your input on this. Your setup works great for slides 1.2 and 1.3 and will work for slides with no interaction.
For slide 1.4, where we have more interaction and users can select different options in any order they choose, I see this type of slide being more complicated to set up.
For slide 1.4, if we were required to force accessible users to select and listen to the audio icon on the main slide, then select all 4 popups and select and listen to all audio icons of the 4 popup layers Z(in order to enable the Next button), the only way I see being able to accomplish this would be to change the slide setup so that it is similar to the setup of slide 1.3:
- This means the user would have to select and listen to all audio for the slide (while the popups were disabled) first. - When the slide audio completed, we would enable the first popup button (while all others were disabled), so that the user could select that first popup, then select the audio icon for the first layer. - When finished with first popup layer 1, we would then enable the second popup button, and so on.
Would you agree?
Also: In comparing both 1.3 and 1.4 together, I see the inconsistency in our training when it comes to forced navigation.
- On slide 1.3, we force the learners to click and listen to each popup layer before they can click the next popup layer (so we are forcing them to listen to all audio). - On slide 1.4, we let learners click any of the 4 popups in whatever order they choose, and as long as they click all 4 popups, the Next button enables (without forcing them to listen to the complete audio of all 4 popups).
Your original comment about "allowing the users to go through the course without audio at all" seems to be the best-case scenario for accessible users, especially when the audio is a one-for-one match to the text on the slide. I am hoping more clients will choose this route.
On 1.4 you've got your set NextS8 to true when the state of all the rectangles is visited, which is ok, but it's not requiring the user to listen to the complete audio on your audio layers.
Based on the way 1.4 is experienced by the learner, it looks and feels like one slide. It feels confusing that as a learner, I would need to click the card, and also click the audio button on each layer, since it doesn't really look like new layers as far as they know. I would probably approach it like this:
When the slide begins, Instruct users who don't have audio auto-playing to select the audio button to hear more about the Risk Management Framework. That audio will tell them to click each card.
Then, when they click the cards, just have the layer show and the audio play (I think this would be what a learner would expect - it's definitely what I expected when I played the slide the first time!). Set the layer properties to prevent the learner from clicking on the other layers, and add a trigger to the audio layers to hide that layer when the timeline ends. Your Next button will become enabled once the user has selected all the buttons.
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I have been learning about making courses accessible. I have come across an issue with controlling audio along with forced navigation. \n I have a small prototype with a few different slide se...","body@stringLength":"1379","rawBody":"
Hello! I have been learning about making courses accessible. I have come across an issue with controlling audio along with forced navigation.
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I have a small prototype with a few different slide set ups. I also have a front-end slide that includes an option to turn off automatically playing audio when visiting each slide.
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My issue is: For learners who select to turn off the automatic audio play on the front-end slide, we want to force them to actually play each audio on the slides and layers (they will need to click the audio icon at the bottom of each slide/layer).
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I have tried a few different ways but cannot come up with a way to include BOTH of the following options on slides:
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Learners click all elements on the slide to enable the Next button. This option is currently included on my slides.
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Learners click all elements AND the audio icons to enable the Next button.
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How do I also include a setup on the slides where, if learners have turned off auto play on the front-end slide, they are forced to click all required elements AND audio icons on the main slide and layers in order to Enable the Next button and continue to the next slide.
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It seems like any type of setup would cancel each other out.
Hello! I have been learning about making courses accessible. I have come across an issue with controlling audio along with forced navigation.
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I have a small prototype with a few different slide set ups. I also have a front-end slide that includes an option to turn off automatically playing audio when visiting each slide.
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My issue is: For learners who select to turn off the automatic audio play on the front-end slide, we want to force them to actually play each audio on the slides and layers (they will need to click the audio icon at the bottom of each slide/layer).
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I have tried a few different ways but cannot come up with a way to include BOTH of the following options on slides:
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Learners click all elements on the slide to enable the Next button. This option is currently included on my slides.
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Learners click all elements AND the audio icons to enable the Next button.
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How do I also include a setup on the slides where, if learners have turned off auto play on the front-end slide, they are forced to click all required elements AND audio icons on the main slide and layers in order to Enable the Next button and continue to the next slide.
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It seems like any type of setup would cancel each other out.
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Thanks!
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Sherri
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Thank you so much for the video and explanation Elizabeth! I appreciate your input on this. Your setup works great for slides 1.2 and 1.3 and will work for slides with no interaction.
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For slide 1.4, where we have more interaction and users can select different options in any order they choose, I see this type of slide being more complicated to set up.
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For slide 1.4, if we were required to force accessible users to select and listen to the audio icon on the main slide, then select all 4 popups and select and listen to all audio icons of the 4 popup layers Z(in order to enable the Next button), the only way I see being able to accomplish this would be to change the slide setup so that it is similar to the setup of slide 1.3:
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- This means the user would have to select and listen to all audio for the slide (while the popups were disabled) first. - When the slide audio completed, we would enable the first popup button (while all others were disabled), so that the user could select that first popup, then select the audio icon for the first layer. - When finished with first popup layer 1, we would then enable the second popup button, and so on.
Would you agree?
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Also: In comparing both 1.3 and 1.4 together, I see the inconsistency in our training when it comes to forced navigation.
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- On slide 1.3, we force the learners to click and listen to each popup layer before they can click the next popup layer (so we are forcing them to listen to all audio). - On slide 1.4, we let learners click any of the 4 popups in whatever order they choose, and as long as they click all 4 popups, the Next button enables (without forcing them to listen to the complete audio of all 4 popups).
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Your original comment about \"allowing the users to go through the course without audio at all\" seems to be the best-case scenario for accessible users, especially when the audio is a one-for-one match to the text on the slide. I am hoping more clients will choose this route.
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Thanks!
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Sherri
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Thank you so much for the video and explanation Elizabeth! I appreciate your input on this. Your setup works great for slides 1.2 and 1.3 and will work for slides with no interaction.
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For slide 1.4, where we have more interaction and users can select different options in any order they choose, I see this type of slide being more complicated to set up.
\n
For slide 1.4, if we were required to force accessible users to select and listen to the audio icon on the main slide, then select all 4 popups and select and listen to all audio icons of the 4 popup layers Z(in order to enable the Next button), the only way I see being able to accomplish this would be to change the slide setup so that it is similar to the setup of slide 1.3:
\n
- This means the user would have to select and listen to all audio for the slide (while the popups were disabled) first. - When the slide audio completed, we would enable the first popup button (while all others were disabled), so that the user could select that first popup, then select the audio icon for the first layer. - When finished with first popup layer 1, we would then enable the second popup button, and so on.
Would you agree?
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Also: In comparing both 1.3 and 1.4 together, I see the inconsistency in our training when it comes to forced navigation.
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- On slide 1.3, we force the learners to click and listen to each popup layer before they can click the next popup layer (so we are forcing them to listen to all audio). - On slide 1.4, we let learners click any of the 4 popups in whatever order they choose, and as long as they click all 4 popups, the Next button enables (without forcing them to listen to the complete audio of all 4 popups).
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Your original comment about \"allowing the users to go through the course without audio at all\" seems to be the best-case scenario for accessible users, especially when the audio is a one-for-one match to the text on the slide. I am hoping more clients will choose this route.
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Thanks!
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Sherri
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On 1.4 you've got your set NextS8 to true when the state of all the rectangles is visited, which is ok, but it's not requiring the user to listen to the complete audio on your audio layers.
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Based on the way 1.4 is experienced by the learner, it looks and feels like one slide. It feels confusing that as a learner, I would need to click the card, and also click the audio button on each layer, since it doesn't really look like new layers as far as they know. I would probably approach it like this:
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When the slide begins, Instruct users who don't have audio auto-playing to select the audio button to hear more about the Risk Management Framework. That audio will tell them to click each card.
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Then, when they click the cards, just have the layer show and the audio play (I think this would be what a learner would expect - it's definitely what I expected when I played the slide the first time!). Set the layer properties to prevent the learner from clicking on the other layers, and add a trigger to the audio layers to hide that layer when the timeline ends. Your Next button will become enabled once the user has selected all the buttons.
On 1.4 you've got your set NextS8 to true when the state of all the rectangles is visited, which is ok, but it's not requiring the user to listen to the complete audio on your audio layers.
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Based on the way 1.4 is experienced by the learner, it looks and feels like one slide. It feels confusing that as a learner, I would need to click the card, and also click the audio button on each layer, since it doesn't really look like new layers as far as they know. I would probably approach it like this:
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When the slide begins, Instruct users who don't have audio auto-playing to select the audio button to hear more about the Risk Management Framework. That audio will tell them to click each card.
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Then, when they click the cards, just have the layer show and the audio play (I think this would be what a learner would expect - it's definitely what I expected when I played the slide the first time!). Set the layer properties to prevent the learner from clicking on the other layers, and add a trigger to the audio layers to hide that layer when the timeline ends. Your Next button will become enabled once the user has selected all the buttons.
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