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Question-level LMS tracking in Rise
Hi. I'm pretty sure the following is not currently possible, but I wanted to ask the question just to make certain...
I am using a Storyline block in a Rise course. The Storyline block includes several questions. I would like to see how the learner responds to the questions. This is important because they're the part of the course evaluation, and we need to see what they thought of the course.
I am tracking completion using the Storyline block.
Will Rise report how the learner responded to the individual questions?
Is this the functionality that is supposed to be released within the next month?
Thanks,
chris
36 Replies
- JustinMcGee-230Community Member
Hi Guys. I am working with our LMS admin to get question level data from Rise and we can't seem to get it utilizing 1.2. Going to try 2004, but unsure of the edition. Anyone have any suggestions on what has worked in your LMS?
UPDATE: Using 2nd edition we were able to get 6 out of the 10 questions specific metrics, but unsure of what is going on with the other 4. Staff?
- Jean-Guy-BoulayCommunity Member
The data being reported is limited to 64k characters, so if your text heavy it might be the problem. Also, In my experience working with Storyline, I know that any data that begins with a numerical value will fail to report. For example
How may shots is a Birdie in golf?
1 under par //this will not report
2 under par //this will not report
One over par //this will report
One under par ///this will report
- BenjaminDuffy1Community Member
Likely, you need to use the 4th edition as it allows for more data to be returned to the LMS.
- JustinMcGee-230Community Member
Hello all. It is an issue they're working on. A work around is turning off the randomization of questions and then placing a numerical value in front of every question and it worked. Thanks for the advice.
- TarenCunning201Community Member
Any update on this?
- Is it still true that quiz details for a Storyline block cannot be reported to the LMS?
- Can you confirm if Jean-Guys post where he states "data that begins with a numerical value will fail to report" is correct? Is that a known issue for Rise? or Just something experienced in Storyline?
Hi Taren, great questions!
- You can track the quiz score by choosing the quiz tracking option when you publish from Storyline to Review 360, and then choosing to track the Rise course by the Storyline block. In that scenario, the quiz score will be sent to the LMS, but question-level details aren't sent to the LMS for Storyline blocks.
- It sounds like Jean-Guy Boulay and Justin McGee are referring to a Rise 360 quiz reporting issue, not a Storyline Block issue. Rise 360 does not send question-level details from the Storyline Block to your LMS, but I'll let our team know you need that option.
- Jean-Guy-BoulayCommunity Member
I was actually referring to just SL360, and should point out that I tested this several builds ago on two LMS's to verify it. The Quiz and question results will report just fine, but in past SL360 builds the question level details would fail to report if the answers started with a number. By details I mean if the administrator wanted to see exactly what was chosen, they would see a blank entry. The answer would still report as correct or incorrect, but fail to record the choice.
I haven't tested this in the latest build of SL360 because I've since changed the format of my question structure in order to save time in the QA process, I simply don't start my answers with numbers. If this issue was fixed then that's great news.
Now if you want to record question level details in storyline through Rise you'll need to setup cmi statements in a javascript trigger and send those details through the Rise Scorm api, which can be accessed by referencing window.top:/*Get player to reference*/
var player = GetPlayer();/*get LMS API*/
var lmsAPI = window.top;I used the cmi.interactions in the scorm runtime api to record the question level data.
I hope I understood the question.
- ChristopherCaldCommunity Member
Great thread. I am using a basic web space with the HTML5 files to serve to clients. Will RISE save a file to the folder web space upon completion of a quiz or do you need a specified and dedicated LMS software to hold the data?
- KarlMullerCommunity Member
Hi Christopher,
You need a dedicated LMS to save and process the data.
- MicheleGallagheCommunity Member
Hello, I saw the response from three years ago "For Rise, we’re working toward release question-level data on Rise quiz lessons specifically." Did this release occur and if so how can we extract the question-level data?
Thank you,
Michele
- CNavarroFormer Staff
Hi Michele, thanks for checking in. Yes, we released the feature to send quiz question-level details to the LMS on June 19, 2018. To get that data sent to your LMS, please publish your Rise 360 course for cm5, SCORM 2004, or xAPI. For more information, you see our article here.
- samlee-1aa5cbacCommunity Member
Saw in the article that details from a Storyline block are still not able to be reported to LMS. Is there an update on whether and when this will be added to a future update? We would like to use Storyline blocks to add some survey questions to existing Rise courses, but currently are not able to get reports on responses. I know that we can imbed surveys from a third-party tool but would rather not do this. Any news on progress would be greatly appreciated.
On a related note, is there a possibility of having survey question types added in addition to knowledge checks as blocks in Rise?
- AndiBaesCommunity Member
Hi team, I've uploaded an Articulate Rise quiz to Tin Canny and embedded the file to a LearnDash Quiz Page (rather than embedding it in a Lesson.)
However, it is not tracking the completion of the quiz at all. I have tried exporting the file to SCORM and TinCan but still not luck. Can you please advice if this is actually possible or if this would only work within lessons? or Would I be better off using Grassblade rather than TinCanny?
Thanks
- MarciaFrankl973Community Member
Hello,
I have a Rise course with 3 individual questions peppered throughout and I need them to report to an LMS. I thought that building these questions in SL blocks and adding them into Rise would enable me to track responses, but it sounds like that won't be the case. Two of the questions are short answer, and the third is a "pick one"/multiple choice. (All are survey-style questions with no correct answer.) What are my options for tracking responses to these three questions in the LMS?
- Jean-Guy-BoulayCommunity Member
It's been awhile, but I'll try. When you publish your project to SCORM 2004 you will have a 'scormdriver' folder. Look for the scormdriver.js. Search the content for 'SCORM2004_RecordInteraction' and copy the whole line.
Now in Storyline create a execute javascript on both the incorrect and correct layers of the question, and add the following two lines in the script:
/*Get player to reference*/
var player = GetPlayer();
/*get LMS API*/
var lmsAPI = parent; //this could be different now, but should work.Then paste in the SCORM2004_RecordInteraction line prefixed by the lmsAPI. It might be different now so grab it from the Rise scormdriver.
"lmsAPI.SCORM2004_RecordInteraction(strID, strResponse, blnCorrect, strCorrectResponse, strDescription, intWeighting, intLatency, strLearningObjectiveID, dtmTime, SCORM2004InteractionType)"
Then just add your Storyline block to rise.Scorm Cloud will record the interactions as objectives when run through registration links. You won't see anything recorded in admin mode so test it as if you were running it from a registration link sent out. This was about 3 years ago I tested this, so no gaurantee's.
- MarciaFrankl973Community Member
Thank you very much for the response! I've passed this on, and will let you know what happens. :)
- MarciaFrankl973Community Member
Using your guidance, along with a random Reddit I also found, we were able to get this working for SCORM 1.2. Thank you so much for the response!!