Navigation Tabs on Layers

Nov 08, 2019

Hello!

Trying to make a course accessible I have identified which elements should be "visible" so a  learner can tab to where they want to go. But there are two issues I cannot find solutions for in the discussions/tutorials:

1. Is there a way to turn off tabs that are on the base layer so they are not visible on the layer slides, or, can I custom navigational tabs for layers? Currently on a layer, the learner needs to tap all of the tabs that show up on the base layer so one sees yellow shapes that mean nothing on the layer.

2. Can I turn off navigational tabs on the Player? If a learner is viewing the course and tabbing through it can be annoying to have to tab from Menu to Notes to Resources.

Thanks for your ideas.  Don

20 Replies
Don Muske

Hello Randy,
This is a bit cumbersome but does show the issue. On the first image, the base layer, the first button is highlighted in yellow as it is the first tab. The second image is that of one of the layers, showing that original tab in yellow outline. Is there a way to turn off tabs on the layers that are needed in the base layer but not needed in the subsequent layers?
Thanks,
Don

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Don Muske

Randy, Trying this again: And thanks for your help.
Hello Randy,
This is a bit cumbersome but does show the issue. On the first image, the base layer, the first button is highlighted in yellow as it is the first tab. The second image is that of one of the layers, showing that original tab in yellow outline. Is there a way to turn off tabs on the layers that are needed in the base layer but not needed in the subsequent layers?
Thanks,
Don

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Don Muske

Randy, Trying this again: And thanks for your help.
Hello Randy,
This is a bit cumbersome but does show the issue. On the first image, the base layer, the first button is highlighted in yellow as it is the first tab. The second image is that of one of the layers, showing that original tab in yellow outline. Is there a way to turn off tabs on the layers that are needed in the base layer but not needed in the subsequent layers?
Thanks,
Don

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Don Muske

I am sorry - I have no idea why the images will not present. See the attachments now andthanks for your help (and patience).

Don

Text from my earlier email:

This is a bit cumbersome but does show the issue. On the first image, the base layer, the first button is highlighted in yellow as it is the first tab. The second image is that of one of the layers, showing that original tab in yellow outline. Is there a way to turn off tabs on the layers that are needed in the base layer but not needed in the subsequent layers?

Randy Hill

So your images attached this time Don. So I am still trying to piece together what you are looking for, but I think this is it. When you are on a layer and want to hide something on the base layer, simply turn down the Base Layer Objects in the Layer timeline. You can turn on and off the base layer objects simply by clicking the eye on or off. This will affect this layer only and how the base layer objects are seen. You can do this for each layer. I do it a lot for text boxes that change base off of what layer the user is on. Hopefully this helps and is what you are looking for.

Don Muske

Hey Randy,

That did not do the trick. Another way to explain this is: On my original slide I have a Custom Tab Order set for 1. The Veterans Health Administration button 2. The VHA Exit button and so on for the following buttons.

So, when I preview the slide and hit the first button I show the yellow outline of the tab of the Veterans Health Administration button, which I'd like to not see.

So, going forward, is there a way that I can make up for my imprecise phrasing and be more clear? My thought is to be able to share with you folks a working slide that you could see how it is built and then give feedback, which would have made this all much simpler. Possible?

Thanks,

Don

Don Muske

The risk of being persistent is to become a pest and I hope I am not doing that, but I have come back to this issue and tried to more clearly show it in hopes of a solution. In making slides accessible there are sometimes confusing effects and I am wondering if there is a solution to this instance.

Thank You.

Don

Leslie McKerchie

Hi Don,

Thanks for reaching out and letting us know that you're still running into some trouble with this.

I tried to take a look at the latest file you've shared, but it's showing as 0 bytes and empty when downloading.

That being said, I've opened a support case on your behalf and shared your original two images as an example. This will allow you to work 1:1 with a support engineer to get to the bottom of the issue you are seeing.

You should be hearing from someone soon.

Don Muske

Hey Leslie,

Let me know what I can do to be able to attach items in the future. I am using Word, Edge as my browser - I'm confounded as to what the issue is!

I just tried to copy and paste the information from my attachment into this space but just the text appears and not the visuals that are essential to explaining what I am seeing. Can I send the attachment to an email address?

 

 

 

Leslie McKerchie

Hi Don,

It looks like you may have been replying via e-mail above. Is that correct? If so, the attachments from the e-mail do not populate in the forum as expected.

You can use the Add Attachment option in your reply, which it looks like you have successfully done as well.

If you'd like to attach an image or gif as I've done above, please use the 'Insert an Image' option in the top of the reply window:

Hope that helps for the future :)

Don Muske

Hey Folks,

I just saw a new project my wife is working on and she showed me the changes your team has made. The yellow outlines of slides on the base layer no longer show up on the other layers, and, the tabbing function works much better, allowing the person to tab to the next slide without going through all of the 'function' tabs (i.e. 'Menu', 'Resources',...) making it easier for people who need to tab. Two very responsive changes - Thanks!.

Don

Don Muske

Hello Again,

I have been happy with changes (see comment above) but have a new wrinkle: A project created in an older version of SL still has this tabbing issue where, when on a layer, the outline of the active button or rectangle of the base layer shows through in a yellow outline. Is there a way to update the version this project is in so this issue no longer occurs? And, how does one tell which version of SL a project is developed in?

Thanks

Lauren Connelly

Hi Don!

I'm happy to step in! First, can you check the layer properties to determine if the "Hide objects on base layer" is checked?

It looks like an object on the base layer might be highlighted so we'll want to make sure that setting is checked. 

If you have this setting checked, I'll be happy to take a look at the file to determine which version it was created with. Would you mind attaching it to this discussion?

Lauren Connelly

Hello everyone!

In case anyone is still running into this issue, I wanted to share that we are not seeing this bug, Yellow accessibility box from an object in the base layer is visible even when a slide layer is shown, in the latest version of Storyline 360.

If you're noticing the yellow accessibility box appears on the base layer when a slide layer is shown, please make sure you're using Storyline 360 (Build 3.61.27106.0) or later.

Don't hesitate to reach out in this discussion or in a support case if you have additional questions!