I thought I would start a thread about Cornerstone on Demand so there's a central place for people to read and add to. There seems to be a dearth of information about how CSOD and Storyline interact with each other as well as the unresolved issues surrounding it. I've spent many hours scouring the web and speaking with Cornerstone trying to find a solution. Hopefully this thread will serve as a resource for others going forward. On a side note, I love Articulate Storyline. I started with Adobe Captivate with limited success. It was a very steep learning curve, but I was able to get some basic functionality out of it. I tested out Storyline with it's 30 day trial, and I will say that time-to-effectiveness was drastically reduced. It really IS like using powerpoint. Granted there is less complex functionality and interactions available than Captivate, but so far it's given me everything I've needed to use. The benefit is that the learning curve is much less steep too. Think of it as the difference between iMovie and Final Cut Pro. The latter can do some crazy effects, but the former gives you 90% of what you need and can get you comfortable in 1/4 of the time. It's nice to have a properly-working content creation tool when you're in an LMS like Cornerstone. I have enough trouble in CSOD as it is. So some of the nuggets of wisdom that I've found are : Cornerstone does not track SCORM 1.2 content properly. You cannot pull a lot of the reports if they are not in SCORM 2004 format. You don't have the option to select that course in the reports. If you export into SCORM 2004, there will be an extra section on the left with text links to the module. This takes up 30% of the screen, and on smaller laptop screens may crowd out the module window. Cornerstone says this is a Storyline exporting settings issue. I couldn't find any settings that shows/hides that section. The workaround is to resize the module to the screen, which doesn't get rid of the section, but at least fits the module. When reporting, you can get the completion status for a course based on quiz result or last slide viewed. You can also get a final grade for course. Storyline passes the results information for each question (including short answer) but you cannot pull a list of the answers for an individual. Therefore, it may not be advisable to administer any testing where you'll need to review individual answers You can get a list of aggregate answers for a module. e.g. I can see how 100 employees answered this multiple choice question. This is helpful to determine if learners are absorbing the course information correctly. Web objects (such as websites, or links to sharepoint documents) work in modules if your IT has added csod.com to the trusted sites Popup windows that open up the articulate module in CSOD will work if you add csod.com to the allowed list for popup blockers. Your IT dept can also add this to everyone's computer. Otherwise when learners click the "launch" button, the module does not show up. I'll post more as I think or find them, but feel free to add to this list!

SCORM Cloud (scorm.com) is a great way to test out if your Articulate courses are working properly. I used this to confirm things that Cornerstone is telling me about whether issues are with my export settings or on their side. It could also be a way to host your files with better functionality and reporting capabilities by bypassing what Cornerstone uses by using their "dispatch" feature. Of course Articulate Online is probably the best way way to track, though I haven't tried their services yet.

SCORM versions with CORNERSTONE Hi all, our LMS administrator found a really helpful tool once CSOD upgraded allowing Storyline and SCORM 2004 compatibility. I believe the source is actually another LMS vendor but the results have been the same for us with CSOD. I've attached both the link and white paper pdf. In summary, they created some fantastic charts that shows the results of all SCORM publish variations. It helped us significantly when one of our training groups wanted to publish in SCORM 2004 in order to report on question level data versus the overall score and completion status we've been getting with SCORM 1.2. The settings we had been using didn't work with 2004 so this tool was invaluable to us. SCORM Publish Settings in Articulate Studio and Storyline Products

I am developing an SL360 course that our largest client needs to launch on Cornerstone. We are experiencing the common "black box" that many have described. Naturally, it's very time sensitive. I have to say that I was both relieved and horrified to find a 24 PAGE thread on Storyline and Cornerstone. YIKES! So, I have been reading through this thread and taking notes for the last 2 hours. I have compiled a list of all the things we need to do to make sure our SL360 course will work on CSOD. Please read through this and let me know if I have either missed something or gotten something wrong. Hopefully, this summary will come in handy for folks who are just beginning the SL3/CSOD journey. Here you go . . . Storyline/Cornerstone Compatibility Settings Storyline settings: · Browser size: Display at user's current browser · Player size: Scale player to fill browser · Do not check "Launch player in new window" · On restart: "When running in LMS, ignore Flash cookie" · Report status to LMS as: Completed/Incomplete · Publish as HTML5 w/ Flash Back-up (Remember, Flash is going away!) · Publish as SCORM 2004 (3rd. Ed) CSOD Settings · In the General tab of the catalog properties page make sure compatibility is turned off. (i.e., change CSOD Compatibility Mode setting to “none”) · Have CSOD turn off the table of contents for SCORM 2004 (i.e., Ask Cornerstone support to set Scorm2004TocMenuset to false.) · When updating a course, if changes are substantive at all, “Inactivate” any old courses and “Create/Publish” new course in CSOD Client's server environment: · Make sure csod.com is on client’s list of trusted sites Thanks in advance for your feedback!

Another helpful tip, at least for me - When publishing, I set my player settings using the Other Tab to Browser Size - Resize browser size to fill screen Player size - Scale Player to fill browser screen Check Launch player in new window Check Display Window with no browser controls Check Allow user to resize browser On my laptop screen, I ALWAYS have to resize the window, and/or fullscreen it as Cornerstone defaults the browser popup size to an odd size that's only about 1/2 the screen width. So at least this way, when I click the Launch button, the resulting browser window will fullscreen automatically.

Hi, I have several answers for you. We've been on Cornerstone for years and I've helped to implement it in various divisions of our org. Chris and Amy - you are correct that you can't delete, but that is good. We've had to find old courses and versions for audit purposes. If you delete the courses, you have nothing to show as to what occurred / was trained to - really important for Compliance courses. Rene - yes. I love it. I've worked with some others, each has their benefits and weak sides. It really depends on what your primary need is. I recommend getting a demo from each of your top runners. Carolyn - you have the option of using deep-linking - this is a new feature. Another option, which I use all the time is the "Curriculum". It allows you to group multiple learning objects together. You can even tell the system which one must be completed first, second etc.... Dawn - yes, When you proxy enroll, you have the option of selecting if the content should be pushed to users that already have it on their transcript. Bathre - if the changes that you have made are significant (ie, a new slide added) not just a minor update like a change of a picture or wording, you must inactivate the old published version and upload a new one. If you try to overwrite it, it will be all jumbled up. So, inactivate and then "create / publish" a new file and you're good to go. Everyone - no I don't work for CSOD, I've just been burdened with other LMS' in my career and love what this one can do in comparison.

JasonChan1

Community Member

12 years ago

Everything we know about Cornerstone on Demand and Storyline!

I thought I would start a thread about Cornerstone on Demand so there's a central place for people to read and add to. There seems to be a dearth of information about how CSOD and Storyline interact with each other as well as the unresolved issues surrounding it. I've spent many hours scouring the web and speaking with Cornerstone trying to find a solution. Hopefully this thread will serve as a resource for others going forward.

On a side note, I love Articulate Storyline. I started with Adobe Captivate with limited success. It was a very steep learning curve, but I was able to get some basic functionality out of it. I tested out Storyline with it's 30 day trial, and I will say that time-to-effectiveness was drastically reduced. It really IS like using powerpoint. Granted there is less complex functionality and interactions available than Captivate, but so far it's given me everything I've needed to use. The benefit is that the learning curve is much less steep too. Think of it as the difference between iMovie and Final Cut Pro. The latter can do some crazy effects, but the former gives you 90% of what you need and can get you comfortable in 1/4 of the time.

It's nice to have a properly-working content creation tool when you're in an LMS like Cornerstone. I have enough trouble in CSOD as it is.

So some of the nuggets of wisdom that I've found are :

Cornerstone does not track SCORM 1.2 content properly. You cannot pull a lot of the reports if they are not in SCORM 2004 format. You don't have the option to select that course in the reports.
If you export into SCORM 2004, there will be an extra section on the left with text links to the module. This takes up 30% of the screen, and on smaller laptop screens may crowd out the module window. Cornerstone says this is a Storyline exporting settings issue. I couldn't find any settings that shows/hides that section. The workaround is to resize the module to the screen, which doesn't get rid of the section, but at least fits the module.
When reporting, you can get the completion status for a course based on quiz result or last slide viewed. You can also get a final grade for course. Storyline passes the results information for each question (including short answer) but you cannot pull a list of the answers for an individual. Therefore, it may not be advisable to administer any testing where you'll need to review individual answers
You can get a list of aggregate answers for a module. e.g. I can see how 100 employees answered this multiple choice question. This is helpful to determine if learners are absorbing the course information correctly.
Web objects (such as websites, or links to sharepoint documents) work in modules if your IT has added csod.com to the trusted sites
Popup windows that open up the articulate module in CSOD will work if you add csod.com to the allowed list for popup blockers. Your IT dept can also add this to everyone's computer. Otherwise when learners click the "launch" button, the module does not show up.

I'll post more as I think or find them, but feel free to add to this list!

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LeslieMcKerchie
Staff
9 years ago
Hi Lulu!

I'm not seeing the same results when I test a sample file in SCORM Cloud.

I have 4 questions, and the learner_response is recorded for the graded and survey questions.

Hopefully someone utilizing CSOD will be able to assist you here.

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ChristiePollick
Community Member
9 years ago
Great information, Will, and I am sure your fellow CSoD users will find it very useful! Thanks for sharing. :)
TracyMarshall
Community Member
9 years ago
Does anyone know how to use deep links in Storyline to deploy a course (via SSO) WITHOUT opening up the Cornerstone On Demand user transcript in the background? Basically, we do not want users to even be aware that they are actually taking a course in Cornerstone (long story). My apologies if this was already answered. Thanks!
- WillFindlay
  Community Member
  9 years ago
  I'm pretty confident in saying there isn't a way to do this. Even if you use the "Register and Launch" deep link, once they close the course, it will take them to their transcript.
CassieTeshima-3
Community Member
9 years ago
Hi Jason -

Thanks for the summary review here. The company I just joined uses Cornerstone and I haven't been to impressed with it yet. The function where you are unable to see how users responded is a big downer as this can be used to talk with the employee.

Any thoughts on Absorb LMS?
ChristiePollick
Community Member
9 years ago
Hi, Cassie -- Thanks so much for reaching out here! I did want to note that as this thread was originally posted a few years ago, Jason or other participants may no longer be subscribed, so if there is a particular individual you would like to reach, you are welcome to do so via the 'Contact Me' link on their profile page.

Or perhaps others here will be able to share their thoughts on your question, and in case you were interested in taking a look at other discussions and resources where various LMS providers are discussed, I thought I might pass along the following:

Forums Compilation: Learning Management Systems (LMS)

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CarmenHamlin
Community Member
9 years ago
Hi! Is anyone here using Cornerstone for Salesforce?

I'm looking to start building more SL courses that are mobile-friendly, and we are also moving the majority of our users onto the salesforce.com platform this year. Currently, a small percentage of our users are on salesforce, and we use CSOD for our sales training (nonmobile).

Would appreciate any insight, best practices, or questions I need to ask for implementation.

Thanks!
- HelenaSmith
  Community Member
  9 years ago
  I am not clear on how you are using the LMS in conjunction with Salesforce.
SighleDenier
Community Member
9 years ago
So the original post was from 3 years ago and it states the following - I'm wondering if this is still true? Can I really NOT get individual question results in SCORM 2004 reporting in Cornerstone?

When reporting, you can get the completion status for a course based on quiz result or last slide viewed. You can also get a final grade for course. Storyline passes the results information for each question (including short answer) but you cannot pull a list of the answers for an individual. Therefore, it may not be advisable to administer any testing where you'll need to review individual answers
- CassieTeshima-3
  Community Member
  9 years ago
  Hi Sighle,
  
  You are correct. We checked with our tech support form Cornerstone and you are unable to get user responses from quizzes or assessments. That detail of information is not extractable from Cornerstone.
  - SighleDenier
    Community Member
    9 years ago
    Hi Cassie -- Thank you very much; not the answer I wanted but I really appreciate your quick reply and finding that out for me.
- WillFindlay
  Community Member
  9 years ago
  The closest you can get to SCORM individual item test results is to go to Standard Reports > Training > Scorm 2004 Course Progress Chart
  
  Choose "Assessment Summary."
  
  In the report criteria you can designate a single user and run the report for that single user. You will see which questions they answered correctly and incorrectly, but you cannot see which responses they chose.
  
  The headers of the report are the following (they make more sense for a summary report of multiple people):
  
  Question #
  
  Question (text)
  
  Attempts
  
  Incorrect
  
  Incorrect%
  
  Correct
  
  Correct %
  
  Question Weight
SighleDenier
Community Member
9 years ago
SCORM 2004 -- it seems to be a Cornerstone issue.
SighleDenier
Community Member
9 years ago
Oh I see what you are asking -- Cornerstone likes SCORM 2004 Edition 3; that's what I published to, but it seems from the post that the data gets stored and Cornerstone won't allow reporting on an individual's question results. We use this for remediation purposes. So once again, we may be forced to use Cornerstone test engine instead of having the test at the end of our eLearning even though they told us that we could get all reports if we use SCORM 2004.
MaryMcDermott
Community Member
9 years ago
Yikes. My management is giving serious consideration to Cornerstone and this thread is making me very nervous. We are on a SABA system now and my Storyline courses upload easily, no problem. You all are discussing workarounds I don't want to deal with regarding scoring and uploading course revisions. Is there anyone who would actually recommend Cornerstone for use with Storyline? And if so, why?