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TomFogarty1
Community Member
10 years ago

Rise Reporting Issue

Really like what Rise can do but having issues with it not reporting back to LMS, anybody else out there use SABA and have reporting issues

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  • Hi Alicia, 

    It sounds like when you tested at SCORM Cloud, the attempts were tracked there? That is something each LMS will handle, as the launching of the course and recording of scores occurs in the LMS not the published output files. 

    Keep us posted if you hear any more from Saba and if you'd like any other help from Miker you can respond to his email to you about case #01090968. 

    • AliciaBlitz's avatar
      AliciaBlitz
      Community Member

      Case # 01090968

      SABA came back and said that Rise is not supposed to track attempts. After a lot of prodding I finally got someone at SABA to agree that this was an issue, AND to work on it. Is there someone who can contact me so I can put them in touch with the SABA tech?

      I would be surprised I am the only user having this issue.

  • Thanks Alicia for your case number. It looks like you were working with Miker before? I'll give him a heads up and see what other information we can get for you to share with Saba! 

  • Hi, Logan.

    I don't have personal experience with Halogen, but here's how I'd approach the scenario you're describing:

    1. Test your course in SCORM Cloud, an industry-standard tool for testing LMS output.  Does the completion problem also happen in SCORM Cloud, or only in Halogen?  This will help you to isolate whether this is a problem with your content or with your LMS.
    2. Enable LMS Debug Mode and share the resulting log with Halogen's support team.  LMS Debug Mode logs all communication between the course and the LMS, so Halogen should be able to tell you quickly why course completion isn't being recorded.

    Please let us know if you need anything else, and have a great day!

    • LoganStahler's avatar
      LoganStahler
      Community Member

      Hi Justin-

      Thanks for the reply!  We have tested the Rise course in SCORM Cloud, and it works as it should.  So, we are pretty confident it has to be a Halogen issue.  Our LMS administrator told us that she can't enable debugging in Halogen because the last time she did, it "broke" the system.  I don't know how/why this can be, but our hands are a bit tied when it comes to our ability to troubleshoot inside of Halogen.  

      We plan to escalate this to the support team, but I thought I would ask you in case you had heard of similar issues with Halogen given Saba recently bought it.

      Best,
      Logan

  • Hi Logan,

    Wow - sorry this saga is continuing with your Halogen team. I'd hope they could figure out how the "broke" the system too. 😕 

    I haven't heard of similar issues with Halogen, but the debugging steps Justin shared are set in Rise and should generate the log without Halogen's help (it would be different than their own debugging process). Hopefully that helps and gives some further insight into what's happening! 

    Definitely keep us posted - I'm sure we have other Halogen users here in ELH. 

  • Hi,

    We're experiencing a similar issue with content developed in Rise. It apparently doesn't make an LMSFinish call when a course is completed. It seems that the only way to trigger this call is to close the browser tab, which isn't helpful when it's one of several lessons in a given LMS course. When we have sequential navigation turned on in our LMS (Skilljar) it means that the leaner is unable advance to the next lesson without closing the browser tab and returning. That's obviously not what we're going for. Given Rise's limited publishing options is there a way to force this LMSFinish call that passes Completion status, and effectively allows learners to advance in a given course when future lessons are locked down?

  • Hi Bryan,

    Great question - we do send the LMSFinish call on the browser close or exit. Are you hoping to change the behavior to occur at a certain point in the Rise course? I'd love to know more about that and share the idea with our team to look into. 

    It also sounds like you're linking the Rise courses inside a larger structure with your LMS? Could you also look to see if the Rise courses could launch in a new window/tab? That way they'd be able to close it and still have the LMS page open and continue on through the rest of your courses. 

  • Hi there, I am experiencing an issue that was mentioned in this thread by Alicia, almost 4 years ago. The attempts on SABA are not being marked. Every attempt is just seen as 1 attempt.

    Has anyone figured out how to get the CMI.exit to read blank?

    • CNavarro's avatar
      CNavarro
      Former Staff

      Hi Yesenia, I am sorry that you are also experiencing issues with SABA not recording the attempts. Alicia mentioned that SABA's support team confirmed that this is an issue and they will work on it. Have you reached out to them yet?

      • YeseniaZuluaga-'s avatar
        YeseniaZuluaga-
        Community Member

        Hi there,

        I have not yet reached out to them. Since the thread was from so long ago I wasn’t sure if something had been resolved already and was waiting to hear from y’all.
        Is your recommendation reaching out to them?

        Thanks,

        Yesenia

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  • Hi Yesenia! Yes, we would recommend reaching out to SABA's support team for next steps. Please keep us posted on what you find out!