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Having some trouble with feedback layers obscuring page numbering
I followed this tutorial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIe8usm3pF4) to ensure that my countdown timer and page numbers showed up when I use layers for some interactive slides but for some reason, it won't work on question feedback layers, despite it being set up the same way.
Any insight?
Adding that I've done this in one other class and it worked as expected, it's just not working in THIS file and I'm trying to further understand before I go and try and apply it to all of our 200+ files.
I've just checked the settings against the original class and everything matches. I feel like there's a simple setting I'm just not seeing.Go to the Feedback Master and check if "Hide other slide layers" is selected.
If it is selected, it means the "Timer" layer on the master slide will be hidden when feedback layers like Correct and Incorrect are shown.
Try unselecting it and see if that resolves the issue.
It is selected but it's also selected in the course that works... I see your logic there though.
I just tested this in your file, and unchecking "Hide other slide layers" in the Feedback Master would produce this result.
My question still stands - the original file I tried this in has that option checked and still displays the timer.
First file vs second.
Let me rephrase your problem to make sure I understand. The page counter and remaining time counter should be displayed on ALL screens, including those with correct or incorrect feedback. However, the problem is that this is not currently the case (with feedbacks): the time counter disappears (and therefore the countdown timer no longer scrolls, which distorts the duration). Have I understood correctly?
Then take a look at the attached .story file: it's your own file that I've reduced to just the 2nd scene. On the 3 quiz screens, the page counter and remaining time counter remain visible. Does this solve your problem? If so, the solution lies in the correct and incorrect layer property settings (for each screen). The “Hide other slide layers” option was checked, so the layer on the slide mask where the counters appeared was also hidden. I unchecked this option on the 2 feedback layers. That's the only thing I did. You need to do this on the feedback layers of all other quiz screens. Next time, copy and paste a quiz screen with these options already deselected to create your other quiz screens.I wonder if Nedim hasn't already suggested a solution that works , but that you don't approve of, and I can't understand why. I'm afraid mine doesn't fully answer the question (and yet it does). 😅 So please let me know.
Hi Thierry,
You're absolutely right—the 'Hide other slide layers' option was enabled on all layers. I offered a quicker solution by unchecking this option in the Feedback Master, which overrides it for all feedback layers across slides, eliminating the need to adjust each layer individually. If I may say, both solutions work without the workaround shown in the video, making it unnecessary. The only required trigger is 'Show Timer Loop' when the timeline starts on the master slide. This ensures the timer remains visible beneath the feedback layer, as feedback layers are partially transparent, without relying on the 'Toggle Show Timer' trigger in the Feedback Master. Your suggestion to copy and paste a quiz screen with these options already deselected is highly valuable for efficiently creating additional quiz screens.
I believe Hannah is trying to recreate the same effect in her project, where the timer appears on top of all other layers, as demonstrated in First File.mp4, rather than beneath the "Correct" or "Incorrect" layers. And that’s what bothers me. If I add a trigger—"Set ShowTimer to value True"—on the Time Loop layer, everything would work as expected.However, this trigger is missing from Hannah's original file. While there is a workaround or another way to achieve this, the question remains: What else is different in Hannah's current file compared to the original one?
Hi Nedim . Your solution for displaying the TimeLoop layer is of course infinitely better than mine, since it requires only ONE setting (on 2 return layer masks) rather than on each return layer of each slide. Forget mine.
On the other hand, could you be more specific about your solution for displaying the timer on top of all the other layers? I've added “Set ShowTimer to value True” to the Time Loop layer (at the beginning and/or end of the timeline), and nothing works as expected: the timer is always underneath. I've missed something.Finally, in trying to find another solution for this, I encountered several strange bugs. For example: I no longer have access to the preset return masks ?!? So I'll stop here. No need to bother Hannah with that because you seem to have solved all HannahWright-70 's problems, even if one mystery remains. Well done.
Hi ThierryEMMANUEL
On the other hand, could you be more specific about your solution for displaying the timer on top of all the other layers? I've added “Set ShowTimer to value True”...
I apologize for the confusion. I had already implemented a fix where I created a new variable ("TimerShow") to replace the original one ("ShowTimer") and updated the associated triggers. Eventually, I removed the "Set ShowTimer to value True" trigger because it wasn’t serving any purpose. I’m sorry for misleading you. I encountered a similar issue with the preset return masks, and honestly, I’m not sure what I did, but the issue disappeared. All in all, I believe the project became corrupted at some level, but fortunately, it’s salvageable to the point where it fully works.It works perfectly Nedim . And it's very simple. I hope this solves HannahWright-70 's question.
So, in your opinion, the behavior of the original ShowTimer variable was corrupted somewhere, that's why something was going wrong. Sounds true but mysterious.Thanks to you, I learned something today (as I do every day with Storyline). I used to think that you had to hide a layer before you could display it again. But you don't.
