The font size will limit how small you can go since the table is designed to hold a font. Shrink your font size down in the table and you can get pretty small.
I agree - there must be a some built in padding that we are not allowed to adjust, since even at 8 pt. font I can only go down so far. It seems to change by font too. I know fonts have some spacing associated with them as well.
Treat the table like a text box. Highlight the table - rightclick>format shape > text box > and adjust internal margins - that should give you a little more space to work with
Yes, you can edit margins. I actually think the large 10 px margins are a bit much.
But, I also found that when I have rows in a table, without text inside all of the cells, the rowheight cannot be shrunk down... It looks that the automatic formatting resets the cell to the standard 21.5 fontsize.
As long as there is at least a character inside a cell like a " - ", you are able to shrink the row height to whatever you want.
As an explaination: Row 1 and 2 can be changed in height. Row 3 and 4 can not, because there are empty cells in the row. Row height and margins are in the image. Also see what happens with marked text as it crosses into the cells above and below.
It looks like Brian shared something similar with our team, and the directions on adjusting row height were as follows:
select the table,
then right click>
choose format shape >
choose text box >
then adjust the margins
I also see that my colleague Wilbert submitted a feature request on Brian's behalf to have more functionality around row height in a tablet. We love to hear more ideas on things you need in Storyline, so feel free to share yours with us right here. 😁
I can get my row height down to as little as 5 pixels, but as you have found it takes a combination of things to get there:
Text margins all have to be adjusted to zero, and
Font size for row has to be set to something really low, like "2", for example.
If I do these two things then I am able to reduce the row height to 5 pixels, even if there is no text in the cells of the row. The cells can be completely empty.
I'm sorry to hear you've had such frustration working in Storyline's tables, but glad that this discussion helped out! Please let us know if there is anything else we can help with!
Has anyone found the answer? Once I remove the inside borders there is way too much spacing between my text. I really need to narrow the gap or I cannot fit what I need.
Thanks for chiming in here. Can you tell me what you mean by "remove the inside borders"? Also, can you share a screenshot of the table so I can get a better picture of the spacing you're seeing?
It looks like Brian was able to decrease the row height to as small as 5 pixels with no text included. If you're still not able to get it set as you'd like, could you share a copy of your .story file here for us to take a look at - and let us know what settings you'd like to see!
I have been able to play around an make the cells smaller. I had to adjust the text box settings under format shape before making any other adjustments or it did not work. Once I formatted the shape, I was able to drag the table smaller.
I do have alot more to do and the tables get bigger as I go so I will see how well the tables let me adjust them.
Thomas - You are a genius!!! This was it!!! And it's been killing me!! How you figured this out, I have no idea, but that totally fixed my issue!! THANK YOU!!!! Adjusting the margins didn't work for me, but adding text to an empty cell did!
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Hi Brian
mine is sticking to 42 pixels LOL
haha, that's closer to what I'm shooting for... Trying to get to 35 pixels high but I don't believe I'm going to get there. Strange!
The font size will limit how small you can go since the table is designed to hold a font. Shrink your font size down in the table and you can get pretty small.
Ahhh, ok, I'll give that a try. Odd thing is I haven't even added any text yet.
Sounds like tables are created with a certain size font already assumed. I'd prefer to see them treated as completely empty containers, I do believe.
Thanks Ron, I'll give this a try.
I shrunk my font size all the way down to 8 and 40 pixels is still as small as I can go with my row height.
With a size 8 font I should be able to go pretty small, I'd think, unless there is a ton of cell padding being applied to the table cells.
Anyways, thanks again Ron, appreciate the help!
Interesting. What font are you using? I do not have the same issue.
Open Sans
I just started a new project and am able to recreate the issue there. I must have something weird going on, guess I'll submit a support incident.
I agree - there must be a some built in padding that we are not allowed to adjust, since even at 8 pt. font I can only go down so far. It seems to change by font too. I know fonts have some spacing associated with them as well.
Good luck
Hey Brian
Treat the table like a text box. Highlight the table - rightclick>format shape > text box > and adjust internal margins - that should give you a little more space to work with
Ron, that was exactly it - took the margins down to zero and was able to get my 35 pixel row height.
I can see some padding there by default, like 2 pixels, but having a 10 pixel default seems a little excessive for me.
Thanks for the tip - I've already spent the morning building a table out of shapes but I'll definitely remember it next time!
I think I have found the (or an) issue.
Yes, you can edit margins. I actually think the large 10 px margins are a bit much.
But, I also found that when I have rows in a table, without text inside all of the cells, the rowheight cannot be shrunk down... It looks that the automatic formatting resets the cell to the standard 21.5 fontsize.
As long as there is at least a character inside a cell like a " - ", you are able to shrink the row height to whatever you want.
As an explaination: Row 1 and 2 can be changed in height. Row 3 and 4 can not, because there are empty cells in the row. Row height and margins are in the image. Also see what happens with marked text as it crosses into the cells above and below.
Hi Thomas,
It looks like Brian shared something similar with our team, and the directions on adjusting row height were as follows:
I also see that my colleague Wilbert submitted a feature request on Brian's behalf to have more functionality around row height in a tablet. We love to hear more ideas on things you need in Storyline, so feel free to share yours with us right here. 😁
I can get my row height down to as little as 5 pixels, but as you have found it takes a combination of things to get there:
If I do these two things then I am able to reduce the row height to 5 pixels, even if there is no text in the cells of the row. The cells can be completely empty.
This thread was great, this has been frustrating me for the last two weeks!
I'm sorry to hear you've had such frustration working in Storyline's tables, but glad that this discussion helped out! Please let us know if there is anything else we can help with!
Has anyone found the answer? Once I remove the inside borders there is way too much spacing between my text. I really need to narrow the gap or I cannot fit what I need.
Hi Jolene!
Thanks for chiming in here. Can you tell me what you mean by "remove the inside borders"? Also, can you share a screenshot of the table so I can get a better picture of the spacing you're seeing?
Thanks!
Hi Jolene,
It looks like Brian was able to decrease the row height to as small as 5 pixels with no text included. If you're still not able to get it set as you'd like, could you share a copy of your .story file here for us to take a look at - and let us know what settings you'd like to see!
I have been able to play around an make the cells smaller. I had to adjust the text box settings under format shape before making any other adjustments or it did not work. Once I formatted the shape, I was able to drag the table smaller.
I do have alot more to do and the tables get bigger as I go so I will see how well the tables let me adjust them.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Thanks for the update Jolene. Just let us know if you need us to take a look at anything as you progress :)
Look for an over-sized text in one of the cells, that's what was forcing an over-sized row height for me. really had me stumped...
Thomas - You are a genius!!! This was it!!! And it's been killing me!! How you figured this out, I have no idea, but that totally fixed my issue!! THANK YOU!!!! Adjusting the margins didn't work for me, but adding text to an empty cell did!