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Saving Rise Source Files to Local Hard Drive
Hi
Currently it does not seem possible to save the Rise source files to one's local machine. As we plan do develop some modules in Rise for clients, we would need to send them the source files if they would like to modify the modules themselves at a later stage.
I understand that there may be sharing of Rise files between accounts for collaborative work in the near future, is there a timeframe for rollout on this?
Do you know if or how source files can be saved, or when this may be implemented?
- LanceCampbell-0Community Member
Problem:
Suppose I'm a Fortune 500 company who wants to standardize on Rise, and want to hire independent shops/devs to create courseware. If I'm going to invest in that development cost, I need a way to keep all the source files for future use, in case we need a different shop to work on the files. It isn't feasible with the current state of Rise, here's why:
The source files cannot be permanently saved, only "kept alive" by passing it from one account to another. This is not a sufficiently stable architecture for large companies to invest in the platform, without promise of being able to keep what they paid to build.
Solution:
It would seem like a small step to create an archive file that could be given to any developer, who could then open it with a current valid Rise account. I don't see a downside for Articulate, and only an upside for larger companies to adopt.
What am I missing?
BTW: This is not a hypothetical, but is currently happening with our shop. Our longtime Fortune 50 client may actually bypass Rise for Elucidat, unless a solution for more permanent archiving source files develops soon. And that would suck for all of us.
- JamesTrew-36893Community Member
Unfortunately this request has been ignored for 3 years. A reply 2 years ago from my post sounded almost promising: "Saving the source files is still on our radar and this thread is included in the report."
It looks unlikely it'll ever get realised, unless the radar is a really big one ;)
Yes, it's a great tool, but what a shame we haven't seen progress here. Hi there Glen and Jason,
You've shared some really valuable insight here, and I appreciate your honesty. It's really helpful for us to know how folks are using the new features we've added (like export to PDF) and how we can continue to improve.
I'd agree that creating a copy of the course each time you make a revision is a great idea, but I can also see how that'd make your Rise dashboard messy and overwhelming. Hopefully you're already using the new folders feature to keep your files organized. While moving a course to a folder won't remove it from the dashboard, it'll be much easier to find when you need it.
As always, keep letting us know about your needs. We appreciate you sticking with us as we work hard to make a product you'll love!
- SimeonGavalasCommunity Member
For professional content development it appears that with your current model, Rise is not an option that can be used in most enterprise or even academic scenarios.
Apart from obvious legal or regulatory reasons that may require keeping source files offline, there is also the issue of the ability to edit something that you have “archived” at a later time.
Example: a client requests development of courses. Courses are created and delivered in the desired published format. In most scenarios the client requests-expects the source files to archive. The developer also keeps a backup for any future updates – changes (educational content is not a static thing...).
Then a year later the need arises to edit one of the courses. Unless there exists somehow the option to “upload” these source files to the editing environment in order to work with them, any “archiving option” is useless.
It seems that now, Rise “source files” are required to exist only within the active subscription. Even assuming that the developer maintains an active subscription every year (regardless of actual demand for work) it is not realistic to expect the client to also keep an active subscription just for storing the “source files” for a project.
In reality, this has stopped us dead for proposing Rise as a development option in a lot of cases that it would otherwise really make sense.
- SemajWashingtonCommunity Member
Unfortunately SImeon you are completely on point regarding this. I definitely wish I had looked more into RISE before I proposed it to my enterprise level clients, but I did, and they loved it and now we have this problem. Justin provided an answer, it's just not the answer upper management wants to hear; they simply will not buy off on the current solution. Alternatively, I've had to re-develop courses using other applications while "mimicking" many of the interactions and look and feel they liked about RISE. So far, so good.
- CassiusNetzleyCommunity Member
Hi James,
Would you mind sharing with the group what alternative applications you've been utilizing to mimic Rise interactions/blocks?
When we're not able to use RISE to develop a particular course (because of variables iterated quite well by Simeon and Glen above) our team has made use of WordPress and various add-ons, Elucidat (for more in-depth branching scenario buildouts), and Docebo's (LMS) content creator (which is probably the most similar to Rise I've seen yet, but proprietary/locked to their LMS).
Thanks!
- GlenMurdockCommunity Member
It's really awkward to do anything with Rise after initially developing a course.
You can't store it internally so others can update it later, you can't transfer it fully and completely by email/CD/USB drive without having the receiver have a paid Articulate account, you can't work on it after someone else has left your company mid-stream unless they transfer ownership first (if it's an acrimonious dismissal that's not likely!) - none of these things are easy to do, and they're pretty standard situations in the business world.
Another limitation of Rise that I've found is when transferring ownership of a Rise course - you don't get ownership of the Review-published version of the course from the original developer, it's nontransferable. What that means is, you can't simply publish an update and have all your clients refresh their browser or click on the original email link again - you need to distribute a whole new hyperlink from your own Articulate account AND you lose all previous comments unless you also have the original developer's original hyperlink. I've been able to go in that way, thank goodness, and was able to see comments made after a developer had left our company. Generally, clients get confused when there are multiple emails and hyperlinks floating around, especially when the 'old' one still appears to work just fine.
Hi Glen,
I'm sorry you're finding it cumbersome to work with Rise 360 courses after the initial development phase. Would you be up for logging a feature request to tell us more about your specific needs?
In the meantime, if there’s anything else I can do to help, please let me know!
- SemajWashingtonCommunity Member
Cass,
I don't think i did anything so great but...
First I scoured the Storyline content library to see if any of the interactive behaviors and/or layouts were replicated anywhere that I could build in Storyline where I can export raw files, when I didn't find what i needed there (you might) i searched this site to see if there was anything here for me to leverage.
In the end I wound up redesigning the aesthetics of the layout, which weren't exactly the same as my RISE version but definitely close enough, which included the flashcard and labeled graphic interactions. Most of the RISE behaviors can be built in SL or Captivate it just takes a lot longer which is why i like using RISE for certain courses.
- GlenMurdockCommunity Member
Sure. I submitted the feature request with reference to this thread for more detail - and to emphasize the apparent appetite of Rise 360 developers/users as evidenced here. It's going on 2 years now and it doesn't seem to have abated!
Thanks for taking the time to do that!
- AileenThome-7c0Community Member
I also need a way to save the source file on a local hard drive badly.
Why?
In our company (13.000 employees) I am currently the owner of the Articulate 360 Teams Account. Soon this Teams Account will be extended to minimum 20 seats. I will be the only one of these people who will have a permanent license for now. The other seats will be switched around as needed.
1. I will loose overview if in the years to come everyone creates more and more Rise Courses and they all have to sit in my dashboard because I am the only one with a permanent license. The way it is now I already have 28 courses sitting in my dashboard and we only have had this software for 3/4 of a year.
2. It would make the process of sharing a course back an forth way easier if I don't have to be the only person in the whole company that "owns" them.
3. It is super insecure for everyone if we can't save the files. Whenever I should have a problem with my account it will be a super scary moment in which we could loose many important courses. I get the shivers just thinking about it.
It would obviously help a lot of people if you could come up with da file that we can save on a local hard drive and open up later from a different account again.
Aileen
- CassiusNetzleyCommunity Member
Aileen Thome
In our company (13.000 employees) I am currently the owner of the Articulate 360 Teams Account. Soon this Teams Account will be extended to minimum 20 seats. I will be the only one of these people who will have a permanent license for now. The other seats will be switched around as needed.
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Aileen
Hi Aileen,
Not to derail the intent of this thread, but the company I work for has similar traits to yours.
It was brought to my attention this article from the Articulate team about licensing and swapping for teams. Maybe you're already well aware of this info, but if not pay particular attention to the 'Can I swap users in and out of seats' section.
https://articulate.com/support/article/Articulate-360-FAQs-Teams#what-happens-when-user-removed
' In each 12-month period, you can transfer seats up to two times the number of seats in your account. For example, if your team has 10 seats, you can make up to 20 transfers per year.'This was news to us and now we're *planning* accordingly to play by the rules with our 16 seats and 32 permitted swaps a year.
- KKKongCommunity Member
My major client gave up on Rise for exactly the reasons Peter mentioned. Can you picture your PowerPoint files cannot be shared offline and will disappear without an annual fee to Microsoft?
- SemajWashingtonCommunity Member
Precisely what I had to do with one of my clients in terms of transference. They were happy with the end product, not so happy about not being able to retain native source files.