We've a test that has a specific question that needs to be correct if someone is to pass. I have moved that question into a different group but do not know how to show the results. If they fail that question, but pass the rest, they still fail. If they pass that one, but get under the required % to pass they fail as well.
Any help with putting this together would be appreciated.
Without knowing exactly how your Golden Question and the other questions are set up, I can really only suggest one thing. Apply all of the points to that one specific question and provide an amount of "0" for points to all the other questions.
If you have trouble with this, or this option won't work for you, can you tell us what type of questions you're using and the type of scoring?
It may also help to know if you're using Quizmaker '09 or '13.
If you'd like, you're also welcome to share the .QUIZ file here. Perhaps we can take a look and provide some additional suggestions :)
I have a similiar issue to Alan. However, I have 5 golden questions in a test of 30 questions. If you miss any of these 5 questions you fail the quiz. But you must get at least 80% on the entire quiz to pass.
I have a couple of questions before I can make a suggestion. Does the course report to an LMS? What type of questions are they? Multiple Choice, True or False, Multiple Answer?
I need an 80% pass rate for the quiz overall. I could consider the golden questions as pass/fail. Each of the 30 questions are multiple choice. Each contain 4 possible responses with only one correct response. I am including the 5 golden questions in the count of 30 questions.
2. Add a variable for each of the "golden" questions. In the demo I named them GoldenQuestion# (# being the number of the question for later reference). These should be True/False type with default value set to False.\
3. On the Correct Feedback layer for each of the golden questions, add a trigger.
When the user gets this question right, it will change the golden question variable to true. Don't have to do anything if it is wrong because the value is already false.
3. Create a results slide (#1) that calculates the score for all questions created so far. Put this results slide in a different scene that will not be seen by the user.
4. Create a new True/False questions after the last question. Set number of attempts to 1. Set the correct answer to True and add these actions.
Trigger 1 Action: Change State of On Object: Radio Button 1 (whichever is true) To State: Selected When: Timeline Starts Object: Current Slide On Condtion: Results.ScorePercent is Equal to Or Greater than 80 <-- This should be the variable from the results for all the questions AND GoldenQuestion# == Equal to True AND Repeat for each Golden Question variable.
The purpose of this trigger is to change the question answer to True when the slide starts ONLY if all the golden questions have been answered correctly AND the user has scored higher than 80%.
Trigger 2 Action: Change State of On Object: Radio Button 2 (whichever is false) To State: Selected When: Timeline Starts Object: Current Slide On Condtion: Results.ScorePercent is Less than 80 <-- This should be the variable from the results for all the questions OR GoldenQuestion# == Equal to False OR Repeat for each Golden Question variable.
The purpose of this trigger is to change the question answer to False when the slide starts if ANY of the golden questions have been answered incorrectly or the user has scored less than 80%.
This will automatically submit the interaction for the user when the timeline starts.
Trigger 4 Action: Jump to Slide Slide: Next Slide When: Timeline Starts Object: Current Slide
This will jump the user to then next slide so that they don't see the true/false question. You can leave this out to test this slide to make sure it does what it is supposed to and then add it later.
5. Add another results slide. This time only have it calculate the True/False question from the previous step. Change the score that is shown from this results slide to the previous results slide from step 3. It should a matter of just changing the variable that will be shown to the other results slide (All I did on mine was remove the "1" that was addeded after %Results.)
The user will see the success feedback if they answer all golden questions correctly and score above 80%. They will see a failure feedback if they answer any of the golden questions incorrectly or score below 80%.
Thanks for the help. However, I am not using Storyline. I'm using Articulate and Quizmaker. I don't see how to add triggers in Quizmaker. Is there a way to add triggers in Quizmaker?
Thanks for all the input. I just wanted to pass on how I worked around this.
I have a total of 30 questions. 5 of those questions must be passed. The overall pass rate should be 80%.
I assigned a value of 2 pts. to the 25 standard questions. Then, for each of the 5 "golden questions" I assigned 100 pts. each. Then, I had to change the passing score to 98%. Here is how I came up with the 98% pass rate.
I needed a passing score of at least 540pts. out of 550.
(100*5) + (25*2*.80) = 540
(100*5) = (25*2*.98) = 539
So, the passing rate is set to 98%, but in reality if you remove the 5 golden questions from the calculation it is 80% of the remaining questions. The only way you can reach 500 pts. is to get all the "golden questions" correct.
Our quiz in Storyline gives the required 80% passing result at the end but the LMS shows them complete whether the passed or failed. Is there a setting or variable in Storyline that would trigger that in the LMS? thanks
Heidi, Another thing to look at is when you publish the course. Check the tracking area. Are you tracking based on the test result or the number of slides viewed (at least I've done this myself in Articulate).
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Hi Alan and welcome to E-Learning Heroes!
Without knowing exactly how your Golden Question and the other questions are set up, I can really only suggest one thing. Apply all of the points to that one specific question and provide an amount of "0" for points to all the other questions.
If you have trouble with this, or this option won't work for you, can you tell us what type of questions you're using and the type of scoring?
It may also help to know if you're using Quizmaker '09 or '13.
If you'd like, you're also welcome to share the .QUIZ file here. Perhaps we can take a look and provide some additional suggestions :)
Thanks!
I have a similiar issue to Alan. However, I have 5 golden questions in a test of 30 questions. If you miss any of these 5 questions you fail the quiz. But you must get at least 80% on the entire quiz to pass.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Hi Diane,
I have a couple of questions before I can make a suggestion. Does the course report to an LMS? What type of questions are they? Multiple Choice, True or False, Multiple Answer?
Multiple choice questions. Yes, it does report to an LMS.
Do you need it to report a score or is it just pass/fail?
I might have to create a demo of this to make sure what I'm thinking will work.
I need an 80% pass rate for the quiz overall. I could consider the golden questions as pass/fail. Each of the 30 questions are multiple choice. Each contain 4 possible responses with only one correct response. I am including the 5 golden questions in the count of 30 questions.
Ok, I have an idea that might work. I'll have to create a demo to test it out. I'll post it when I'm done with it.
Ok, so here is the demo.
Here is what you you'll need to do.
1. Create your questions in the usual manner.
2. Add a variable for each of the "golden" questions. In the demo I named them GoldenQuestion# (# being the number of the question for later reference). These should be True/False type with default value set to False.\
3. On the Correct Feedback layer for each of the golden questions, add a trigger.
Action: Adjust Variable
Variable: GoldenQuestion#
Operator: =Assignment
Value: Value : True
When: Timeline Starts|
Object: Correct Layer
When the user gets this question right, it will change the golden question variable to true. Don't have to do anything if it is wrong because the value is already false.
3. Create a results slide (#1) that calculates the score for all questions created so far. Put this results slide in a different scene that will not be seen by the user.
4. Create a new True/False questions after the last question. Set number of attempts to 1. Set the correct answer to True and add these actions.
Trigger 1
Action: Change State of
On Object: Radio Button 1 (whichever is true)
To State: Selected
When: Timeline Starts
Object: Current Slide
On Condtion:
Results.ScorePercent is Equal to Or Greater than 80 <-- This should be the variable from the results for all the questions
AND GoldenQuestion# == Equal to True
AND Repeat for each Golden Question variable.
The purpose of this trigger is to change the question answer to True when the slide starts ONLY if all the golden questions have been answered correctly AND the user has scored higher than 80%.
Trigger 2
Action: Change State of
On Object: Radio Button 2 (whichever is false)
To State: Selected
When: Timeline Starts
Object: Current Slide
On Condtion:
Results.ScorePercent is Less than 80 <-- This should be the variable from the results for all the questions
OR GoldenQuestion# == Equal to False
OR Repeat for each Golden Question variable.
The purpose of this trigger is to change the question answer to False when the slide starts if ANY of the golden questions have been answered incorrectly or the user has scored less than 80%.
Trigger 3
Action: Submit Interation
Interaction: True/False
When: Timeline Starts
Object: Current Slide
This will automatically submit the interaction for the user when the timeline starts.
Trigger 4
Action: Jump to Slide
Slide: Next Slide
When: Timeline Starts
Object: Current Slide
This will jump the user to then next slide so that they don't see the true/false question. You can leave this out to test this slide to make sure it does what it is supposed to and then add it later.
5. Add another results slide. This time only have it calculate the True/False question from the previous step. Change the score that is shown from this results slide to the previous results slide from step 3. It should a matter of just changing the variable that will be shown to the other results slide (All I did on mine was remove the "1" that was addeded after %Results.)
The user will see the success feedback if they answer all golden questions correctly and score above 80%. They will see a failure feedback if they answer any of the golden questions incorrectly or score below 80%.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Made a quick edit, the triggers should be correct now.
Jerson,
Thanks for the help. However, I am not using Storyline. I'm using Articulate and Quizmaker. I don't see how to add triggers in Quizmaker. Is there a way to add triggers in Quizmaker?
Hi Diane,
Could you just attribute enough points to the golden questions so that it is impossible to pass unless they have gotten them correct?
Just an idea!
Allison
@ Diane, Sorry I don't know anything about Quizmaker
Sigh.. I should really read what software the thread is in before I try to help.
Thanks for all the input. I just wanted to pass on how I worked around this.
I have a total of 30 questions. 5 of those questions must be passed. The overall pass rate should be 80%.
I assigned a value of 2 pts. to the 25 standard questions. Then, for each of the 5 "golden questions" I assigned 100 pts. each. Then, I had to change the passing score to 98%. Here is how I came up with the 98% pass rate.
I needed a passing score of at least 540pts. out of 550.
(100*5) + (25*2*.80) = 540
(100*5) = (25*2*.98) = 539
So, the passing rate is set to 98%, but in reality if you remove the 5 golden questions from the calculation it is 80% of the remaining questions. The only way you can reach 500 pts. is to get all the "golden questions" correct.
So glad that worked out for you! Thanks for sharing the point values that worked for you, that is super helpful. :)
Great solution Diane. And Jerson, your Storyline solution is great too (although Diane's might be simpler). :-)
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Our quiz in Storyline gives the required 80% passing result at the end but the LMS shows them complete whether the passed or failed. Is there a setting or variable in Storyline that would trigger that in the LMS? thanks
Hi Heidi!
Do you get the same results if you publish to SCORM Cloud? This will help us identify if the issue lies with the course or with your LMS.
If you can replicate this in SCORM Cloud, then we would want to take a look at your .story file.
I will check it Leslie.
Heidi, Another thing to look at is when you publish the course. Check the tracking area. Are you tracking based on the test result or the number of slides viewed (at least I've done this myself in Articulate).
Good tip as well Diane :)
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