Wrestling with the feedback masters

Aug 30, 2018

Margaret Morse
By Margaret Morse

Hello,

I'm trying to adapt the "Jeopardy" download to work as a team competition. I've made variables for team 1 and team 2, and then I've tried to modify the feedback masters so that they will go back to the question if the first team answers incorrectly (2 tries on the question) and add the value of the question to either team 1 or team 2's score (variables for these). So, the easiest thing it seemed to do is to make five different "Correct" feedback masters, one for each question value, one "Try again," and one "Incorrect, Continue." For the "Correct" answers, the person moderating the game would click either the team 1 or team 2 button t add to the score and then the continue button. The problem is that it doesn't seem to be possible to apply the different masters to the questions and have them appear properly.  I have only worked on the first two of the "Substances" questions in this file. Could you have a look and make suggestions? Another thought I had was to make a separate scene with the possible feedback/scoring variations that could be displayed as lightbox slides, but then I'd probably have to redo all the questions to show which answer is correct. The feedback masters seem to be really inflexible.

11 Replies
Margaret Morse
over 5 years ago08/30/18 at 6:57 pm (UTC)

The masters also "remember" earlier fonts and won't let you change things. The "Try Again" master is a case in point in this file. What seems to be working is to just use the "200" correct feedback master and label and add triggers the Team 1 and Team 2 buttons on each slide, getting them to adjust the variable. Seems like a very long way around, but it works.

Margaret Morse
over 5 years ago08/31/18 at 7:11 pm (UTC)

Actually, I went with the brute-force method, which was to base all the "correct" answers off the primary "correct" slide template (200 points, in the file I posted) and individually change the triggers for each one. In each case, I also had to relabel the buttons "Team 1" and "Team 2," because the template put both up as "Button," regardless of what the template said. Also, there were a couple instances where I had to change the template after I published, because it reverted to an earlier version. So, it works, but it is a pain that (1) if you change one of these templates, it doesn't change everywhere it has been used and (2) triggers on the template don't seem to come across, although sound does. As you can see from other questions I've raised, the Feedback templates seem to use code that belongs to an earlier era of Storyline (maybe even Presenter). Perhaps someone could look them over? It would have been helpful to be able to use the variety of "Correct" templates I created.

Thanks for having a look!

--mlm

Leslie McKerchie
over 5 years ago09/04/18 at 6:17 pm (UTC)

Hi Margaret,

I took a look at your course and although the triggers do not populate at the slide level, they will still work.

I took a look to see if the variables were changing and they certainly seem to be doing so.

It sounds like you've gotten it working now, but if you run into an issue again, please record a Peek so that we can fully understand the issue you may be running into.

Margaret Morse
over 5 years ago09/06/18 at 6:26 pm (UTC)

Hello,

Hoping to share only, though I might have questions about it when I do some revision. The university has made a lot of things more secure lately. I work at home, so I'm using AT&T. I tried https from here and got something about my connection not being secure. The guy who's going to use it in class also works from home and hasn't had problems, but he'll be on campus on Monday to use it, if it's a server issue. It's a mystery.

Thanks.

--mlm

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