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Everything we know about Cornerstone on Demand and Storyline!
I thought I would start a thread about Cornerstone on Demand so there's a central place for people to read and add to. There seems to be a dearth of information about how CSOD and Storyline interact with each other as well as the unresolved issues surrounding it. I've spent many hours scouring the web and speaking with Cornerstone trying to find a solution. Hopefully this thread will serve as a resource for others going forward.
On a side note, I love Articulate Storyline. I started with Adobe Captivate with limited success. It was a very steep learning curve, but I was able to get some basic functionality out of it. I tested out Storyline with it's 30 day trial, and I will say that time-to-effectiveness was drastically reduced. It really IS like using powerpoint. Granted there is less complex functionality and interactions available than Captivate, but so far it's given me everything I've needed to use. The benefit is that the learning curve is much less steep too. Think of it as the difference between iMovie and Final Cut Pro. The latter can do some crazy effects, but the former gives you 90% of what you need and can get you comfortable in 1/4 of the time.
It's nice to have a properly-working content creation tool when you're in an LMS like Cornerstone. I have enough trouble in CSOD as it is.
So some of the nuggets of wisdom that I've found are :
- Cornerstone does not track SCORM 1.2 content properly. You cannot pull a lot of the reports if they are not in SCORM 2004 format. You don't have the option to select that course in the reports.
- If you export into SCORM 2004, there will be an extra section on the left with text links to the module. This takes up 30% of the screen, and on smaller laptop screens may crowd out the module window. Cornerstone says this is a Storyline exporting settings issue. I couldn't find any settings that shows/hides that section. The workaround is to resize the module to the screen, which doesn't get rid of the section, but at least fits the module.
- When reporting, you can get the completion status for a course based on quiz result or last slide viewed. You can also get a final grade for course. Storyline passes the results information for each question (including short answer) but you cannot pull a list of the answers for an individual. Therefore, it may not be advisable to administer any testing where you'll need to review individual answers
- You can get a list of aggregate answers for a module. e.g. I can see how 100 employees answered this multiple choice question. This is helpful to determine if learners are absorbing the course information correctly.
- Web objects (such as websites, or links to sharepoint documents) work in modules if your IT has added csod.com to the trusted sites
- Popup windows that open up the articulate module in CSOD will work if you add csod.com to the allowed list for popup blockers. Your IT dept can also add this to everyone's computer. Otherwise when learners click the "launch" button, the module does not show up.
I'll post more as I think or find them, but feel free to add to this list!
- SteveFlowersCommunity Member
I've added a Javascript trigger to pass in the score when needed. Off the top of my head:
lmsAPI=parent;
lmsAPI.SetScore(100,100,0);
SetStatus("passed");
lmsAPI.SetPassed();I don't remember which of the two last lines are best. If you try it and these don't work, lmk and I'll get in and test/confirm/update.- TinaMorenoCommunity Member
This is excellent, thank you for that. I will pass this on!
- Will_FindlayCommunity Member
Is anyone now exporting from Storyline as xAPI (instead of SCORM) and then importing to Cornerstone? [1]
I tried this a few years ago, and I remember there was something not quite right about the sizing of the iFrame holding the course (I think it was showing scroll bars). Maybe that's been resolved since then.
If you are (or have even tried doing this), what are the advantages/disadvantages?
- MaryGutweinCommunity Member
Hi Will! Yes, I've exported to the xAPI format and uploaded to CSOD. They have an xAPI Statement Viewer (must be turned on by CSOD) for you to view the results. However, we've found that the xAPI Statement Viewer has a lot of limitations - from a limit of the number of statements to export to not recognizing all of the verbs to duplicating the statements when you filter. We are looking into other solutions for xAPI data.
- Will_FindlayCommunity Member
Mary, Thanks for your reply! That is too bad about the limitations. Do you know if Reporting 2.0 can pull in any of the xAPI data, e.g., can you still pull quiz question data like you can with SCORM 2004?
- YvonneDoughertyCommunity Member
Starting within the last month, my courses are not showing "in progress" results (scores) in CSOD or the SCORM Cloud. They do show results (scores) when they are completed. The courses I uploaded the previous month worked fine. I believe I updated Storyline between those courses. I used the same template for all of these courses, the ones that work and the ones that don't.
Hello Yvonne,
Happy to help!
Good call on testing in SCORM Cloud. This confirms that the behavior you're experiencing isn't isolated to a single LMS which helps us out a lot! I'd like to ask a few questions to help clarify your experience:
- You mentioned that you are no longer seeing the "in progress" status for your course. What message has replaced this status in your LMS and in SCORM Cloud?
- Have you tried downgrading your Storyline 360 installation to a previous version to see if this restores the "in progress" status for the course? Try choosing a version that was released before last month for this.
- Did you test using other learning standards for your course? For example, if you were publishing using SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004 1st or 2nd edition, have you tried using 3rd or 4th edition for the course? Learning standards report completion statuses differently depending on the version used, so you might find it helpful to test other editions as well.
Looking forward to your response!
- YvonneDoughertyCommunity Member
Thank you so much for getting back to me.
In answer to your first question, CSOD still reports it as "In progress," it just doesn't display the current score. The SCORM Cloud lists the Completion as incomplete (we do have it set to complete/incomplete), Success as unknown (which it typically does for our other courses), and Score as unknown (usually displays the score).
I tried downgrading our Storyline installation, and this did not make a difference. It still does not show the In Progress score. I tried this in the 7/7/2023 version and the 5/30/2023 version.
I always publish using SCORM 2004 4th ed. We have not had luck with the SCORM 1.2 or other editions of SCORM 2004, as they weren't providing everything we needed our courses to do reporting-wise.
Thanks.
Yvonne
- YvonneDoughertyCommunity Member
- YvonneDoughertyCommunity Member
Hi Maura. We have not had an update in Cornerstone, yet, only a couple of patches.
- SheviYuval1Community Member
Hi. I have a game that is built in storyline 360, at the end of which I want to transfer 2 numerical data to Cornerstone LMS. These two numbers are from two variables; I prepared for each a Numeric entry slide based on the "how many" question, followed by a slide of the results of these two questions. How do I best publish this project to Cornerstone so I can find this data in the reports? I understood that xAPI is not a good option. Which of the scrom versions will be the best? How do I find this data in Reporting 2.0? Thanks!
- SheviYuval1Community Member
Thanks Eric- can you answer my question above the one to Barry? How do I best publish my project to Cornerstone so I can find my data in the reports? I understood that xAPI is not a good option. Which of the scrom versions will be the best? How do I find this data in Reporting 2.0? Thanks.
- SteveFlowersCommunity Member
SCORM 2004 r3 is likely your best bet to access the data passed into the LMS from your modules. Search for SCORM to return the fields associated with 2004 quiz data. Look under SCO Data for some of the fields common to all SCORM versions, such as bookmark, name, and suspend data. The rest of what you're looking for associated with the completion status for the module will be under transcript.
- SheviYuval1Community Member
The thing is my variables are not a regular quiz, but questions that present a variable that is a number, following by a result slide. Will they show in this kind of report?
- carolynkunzCommunity Member
As Steve said, they have to be built-in quiz questions. Meaning you can't even use free-form. :(
- SteveFlowersCommunity Member
Not directly. Only SCORM data elements listed will return. You could populate a question item in Storyline, hide the question behind something and submit with a trigger after filling with your variables. That way the data would be reportable.