Hi Lynne - without seeing your project it is hard to tell what is causing the problem. The only thing I can suggest is to check your trigger order.
I assume you have a trigger that says to change the state of the disabled button to normal when the user returns to slide 1 and another trigger that says to jump to slide 5 when the user clicks the button.
If so, you need to make sure the trigger to change the state of the disabled button to normal occurs before the trigger to jump to slide 5.
If you don't have a trigger to change the state of the disabled button to normal you will need to create one.
You will also need a variable because you only want to enable the button when the user returns to slide 1.
You need to set up a true/ false variable - call it EnableButton and set the inital value to false.
On slide 5, add a trigger that says to change the value of the variable to true when the timeline starts.
On slide 1 add a trigger that says change state of the disabled button to true when the timeline starts if variable EnableButton is true.
Then add a trigger that says jump to slide 5 when user clicks the button.
Thanks so much for the help. I must be missing something because it is still not working. I have attached a portion of the file for you to look at and perhaps this will make more sense.
The process I want the storyboard to go is:
1.1 with a view of the tab Pictograms however this tab is disabled
If you add a new trigger (without selecting anything on screen) and then specify 'Jump to Layer 1.5 Pictograms' when user clicks 'Pictogram Group 1 - "Shape 1" ....this should work for you, it does here.
It seems sometime the linkage gets muddled and its easier to just add a new trigger etc.
One last question...How would I go about setting up a trigger, so the user can revisit the previous tabs if they choose and the buttons not be disabled.
Looking at the template I sent you, there are multiple tabs. I want the user to go in a specific order thus the tabs are disabled. However once they visited a tab and they want to go back to review something, I need them to be able to move freely. Did that make sense?
There is another slide that is called history as well as Haz Com. As I do want the particiant to go in order (thus the need to have the tab disabled until I want them to move forward) I do want the learner to have the ability to revisit different slides without them being disable. As an example:
Slide 1: Welcome slide
Slide 2: History
Slide 3: Haz Com
Slide 4: What's New?
Slide 5: SDS
Sldie 6: Pictograms
The learner starts on slide 1 and all tabs are disabled until the timeline ends and only the History tab is enabled. Then they are directed to click on the history tab. On the history slide all tabs are disabled and only the Haz Com tab is enabled when the timeline ends and then they are directed to click on the Haz Com tab. So this is how I want them to proceed. However, as the participant is moving forward (as example they are on the SDS slide) and the want decide they want to revisit the History slide I need it to be enabled however letting them jump back to the SDS slide when they are done.
Did that make sense? I have the feeling I am making this harder than it needs to be.
I had been thinking you could use the same basic structure that we set up for the Pictogram tab on your other tabs (i.e., set up a true/false variable for each tab and then add a trigger to set the variable to true etc.
So if you take the History tab as an example - you would create a true/ false variable called HistoryActive and set the inital value to false.
On the first history slide, add a trigger that changes the HistoryActive Variable to true when the timeline ends. And then on any slide that contains the history tab, add a variable that says to change the tab to normal if variable HistoryActive is equal to true.
I think that I did it correctly. However I must be missing something. I tried it just for the history tab and put the trigger on the Haz Com slide. Do you mind taking a look at this and see what is wrong? For some reason it is still not working.
Hi Lynne, I finally had a chance to play with your file and I believe I have it working the way you want it - the history, haz and whats new tabs are working.
When you take a look at the file, you will see that you are going to need a ton of triggers to get this working. The reason for this is that the menu is duplicated on each slide. Take a look at what I have done and feel free to ask me as many questions as you need to.
One thing I would suggest from a design perspective is that I would change the disable state on your tabs to gray or something. Right now they are the same colour as the normal state so there is no visual clue when you active a tab at the end of the timeline.
Also - you don't need to add a trigger to set the state to visited at the beginning of the timeline - If you go into the edit state option you will see a dropdown list where you can select the inital state.
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Hi Lynne - without seeing your project it is hard to tell what is causing the problem. The only thing I can suggest is to check your trigger order.
I assume you have a trigger that says to change the state of the disabled button to normal when the user returns to slide 1 and another trigger that says to jump to slide 5 when the user clicks the button.
If so, you need to make sure the trigger to change the state of the disabled button to normal occurs before the trigger to jump to slide 5.
If you don't have a trigger to change the state of the disabled button to normal you will need to create one.
You will also need a variable because you only want to enable the button when the user returns to slide 1.
You need to set up a true/ false variable - call it EnableButton and set the inital value to false.
On slide 5, add a trigger that says to change the value of the variable to true when the timeline starts.
On slide 1 add a trigger that says change state of the disabled button to true when the timeline starts if variable EnableButton is true.
Then add a trigger that says jump to slide 5 when user clicks the button.
Hi Nanacy,
Thanks so much for the help. I must be missing something because it is still not working. I have attached a portion of the file for you to look at and perhaps this will make more sense.
The process I want the storyboard to go is:
1.1 with a view of the tab Pictograms however this tab is disabled
1.2
1.3
1.4
1.1 now the Pictogram tab is enabled and then
1.5
I appreciated your assistance.
Hi Lynne,
If you add a new trigger (without selecting anything on screen) and then specify 'Jump to Layer 1.5 Pictograms' when user clicks 'Pictogram Group 1 - "Shape 1" ....this should work for you, it does here.
It seems sometime the linkage gets muddled and its easier to just add a new trigger etc.
Hope this helps.
Hi Lynne, you almost had it. You were missing a trigger to change the variable to true. Take a look at the revised file. I added this trigger to 1.4
Nancy, that worked great! Thanks.
One last question...How would I go about setting up a trigger, so the user can revisit the previous tabs if they choose and the buttons not be disabled.
Looking at the template I sent you, there are multiple tabs. I want the user to go in a specific order thus the tabs are disabled. However once they visited a tab and they want to go back to review something, I need them to be able to move freely. Did that make sense?
Hi Lynne, I think I understand what you are trying to do, but I am a little confused about the overall navigation.
I think it may be because this is just a portion of the file.
Once enabled,
what slide does the history tab jump to when clicked?
what slide does the Haz Com tab jump to when clicked ?
etc.
Nancy,
There is another slide that is called history as well as Haz Com. As I do want the particiant to go in order (thus the need to have the tab disabled until I want them to move forward) I do want the learner to have the ability to revisit different slides without them being disable. As an example:
Slide 1: Welcome slide
Slide 2: History
Slide 3: Haz Com
Slide 4: What's New?
Slide 5: SDS
Sldie 6: Pictograms
The learner starts on slide 1 and all tabs are disabled until the timeline ends and only the History tab is enabled. Then they are directed to click on the history tab. On the history slide all tabs are disabled and only the Haz Com tab is enabled when the timeline ends and then they are directed to click on the Haz Com tab. So this is how I want them to proceed. However, as the participant is moving forward (as example they are on the SDS slide) and the want decide they want to revisit the History slide I need it to be enabled however letting them jump back to the SDS slide when they are done.
Did that make sense? I have the feeling I am making this harder than it needs to be.
Thanks.
I had been thinking you could use the same basic structure that we set up for the Pictogram tab on your other tabs (i.e., set up a true/false variable for each tab and then add a trigger to set the variable to true etc.
So if you take the History tab as an example - you would create a true/ false variable called HistoryActive and set the inital value to false.
On the first history slide, add a trigger that changes the HistoryActive Variable to true when the timeline ends. And then on any slide that contains the history tab, add a variable that says to change the tab to normal if variable HistoryActive is equal to true.
Hi Nancy,
I think that I did it correctly. However I must be missing something. I tried it just for the history tab and put the trigger on the Haz Com slide. Do you mind taking a look at this and see what is wrong? For some reason it is still not working.
Thanks
Hi Lynne. I'll take a look but might not be able to get to it until tomorrow evening.
Hi Lynne, I finally had a chance to play with your file and I believe I have it working the way you want it - the history, haz and whats new tabs are working.
When you take a look at the file, you will see that you are going to need a ton of triggers to get this working. The reason for this is that the menu is duplicated on each slide. Take a look at what I have done and feel free to ask me as many questions as you need to.
One thing I would suggest from a design perspective is that I would change the disable state on your tabs to gray or something. Right now they are the same colour as the normal state so there is no visual clue when you active a tab at the end of the timeline.
Also - you don't need to add a trigger to set the state to visited at the beginning of the timeline - If you go into the edit state option you will see a dropdown list where you can select the inital state.
The file did not upload. I have zipped it and tried again.
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