Variables and Triggers for Slide and Quiz Review

Jan 05, 2016

Hi,

I am sure this information is somewhere in the discussion but I was not able to find it. I have a course with questions slides dispersed all over and learners would have to navigate to the next content slide if they answer correctly. If they did not answer correctly and choose to review, they should be brought to the review slide that repeats the information for then and after that should be taken to the question slide showing their answer (only 1 attempt is allowed) and then further to the course. Then at the end, learners will have the option to review the quiz and retake the quiz. I have course that is working this way but is very long complex and I do not understand the logic behind all variable created there and which variables belong to which slides. So, my understanding is that I am missing:

1. Variables/triggers to navigate from a review slide to the question result slide and then further to the content

2. Variables/triggers to review just the question slides with answers without the content

3. Variables/triggers to retake the quiz

I would greatly appreciate the explanation of the logic I should be following in this process. I also see that there is a hidden result slide that I do not understand the purpose of.  Thank you so much in advance!

21 Replies
Tamara Tarasova

Hi Leslie,

After posting I played with a sample myself using the common logic instead of trying to figure out the existing project and made quite a progress. The thing is that the previous project was done in SL1 and I have to recreate it in SL2 . Most likely I will get back you soon. Thank you for keeping an eye on the positing !

Best,
Tamara Tarasova

Tamara Tarasova

Hi again, I am back to this tread. Here is what I can't make working. My quiz slide is between the content and if the user fails, he is given an option to review the relevant slide right away. After that he is brought back to the quiz slide to just see the result but should not be able to make changes as it is only 1 attempt. All up to this works fine. Now when I hit the next button on the review quiz slide I am  brought back to the content review slide. My trigger on the quiz slide says go to the next content slide when the user clicks the next button. But I am stuck between the review and quiz  slides instead of advancing on the project. Here is  a sample file attached. Could you please advice what am I missing. Thanks a lot! 

Leslie McKerchie

Hi Tamara!

I'm sure you're just providing me with a sample to peek at, but it's hard to understand what may be happening in your file since the results slide in your example doesn't have a 'next' slide to go to.

Would you be able to share your project file? If you cannot share here in the forums, I understand, and you are welcome to share here privately.

Tamara Tarasova

Hi Leslie, thank you so much for taking a look at it. As I will not access my computer till Tuesday I will not be able to do any updates earlier than that. But the thing I am struggling with is before the actual quiz review from the results slide. I am trying to review the slide right after the person answered incorrectly from the review button in the incorrect layer and then be able to navigate further on reviewing the question slide once again. So I am not working on the result slide here. But in case my file is not enough for this question, I may say that in my real project it is a content slide "what is next" - that is it. Does that all make sense?

I found a thread about using lightboxes for this purpose and found it so much easier than what my predecessor developed in SL1. I would have to go back to the previous module developed before me and get approval on this design change for all modules though. Thank you again!

Best,
Tamara Tarasova

Leslie McKerchie

Hi Tamara!

Thanks for that explanation, that helped me better understand what you were going for. I misunderstood the first time and focused on the results slide.

Ok, the re-try behavior is typically driven by the results slide and if you wish to have this question re-set when the user pops back into the slide you can change the slide properties to Reset to Initial State.

I am re-attaching your file and I updated Question 1. This may be what you are looking for.

Tamara Tarasova

Good morning, Leslie! Thanks for the update on the issue. The users will get back to the question slide after reviewing the content slide but they will not be allowed to redo the quiz - they will just review how they answered and will move on. So the option to reset the slide will not work. They will have the option to redo the quiz after they are through all the quiz questions from the results slide. For now if you look at the triggers for Q1 in my original file,  it has a trigger for the next button to go next. As I do not want the next button to be on the slide when they answer question, there is no next button - it is just the trigger. And this trigger works partially as the next button appears when they review the slide after reviewing the content slide, however, when clicking on it the user  is brought back to the review slide and does not advance the course.  As I mentioned before, I am not a big fan of this solution, but the first module of the project that has been developed in SL 1 is working this way and it has been approved by the management. Now I am looking for options to repeat that in SL2. Hope it makes more sense now. Thank you!

Ashley Terwilliger-Pollard

Hi Tamara,

I think I understand what you're trying to set up and I can see it's not working, but I'd like to share a few thoughts here and then take a look at your original SL1 file to see if that is set up differently and how it behaves upon upgrading it. 

First, I noticed you were adjusting the variable after the trigger to hide the layer, and I'd look at reordering those triggers as you'll want to adjust the variable before anything happens in relation to the hiding of layers or jumping to new slides. 

Second  - you mentioned lightboxing it, but what about adding the "review" information to the incorrect layer? If they're not going to be able to reanswer, I am not sure I'm clear on then going back to the particular question slide. You could add any additional information to that slide layer or even a custom layer to be shown? 

Tamara Tarasova

Hello,

Just a quick follow up on how I finally managed it. Ashley, I took your suggestion regarding the targeted feedback, added a lightbox if they want more than feedback, and suggested to review the incorrect answers on the quiz review at the end instead and that worked well for the management. I will have to redo the previous module which is very lengthy, but it will save us a lot of time as we are planning to develop several more modules of similar complexity and length. Thank you for helping me to look at it from a different angle!

Tamara Tarasova

Hi, 

I am back again. I set up Next navigation on quiz slides that differs  on the first time doing the quiz from reviewing/revisiting, now my problem is the Previous button.  When learners want to go Previous from a slide after a quiz question in the middle of the course they are brought to the  quiz slide where Next and Previous buttons appear automatically. And when I click Previous button it brings me to the next slide again instead of advancing to the slide before the quiz.  May I ask you please to have a look at the attached model file and guide me into the right direction. More specifically the order to see what I am talking about would be:

Click next after slide 1,

Answer the Question 1,

When you are on slide 2 click Previous (you will be brought to Question 1)

Click Previous again and you are NOT on Slide 1 what I want to happen.

Thank you! 

Leslie McKerchie

Hi Tamara!

I'm sending your file on to our support team to assist you. At first glance, I'm not sure what's going on and we are a bit short-handed in the forums today and I want to be sure your file and issue gets the attention needed :) You should be hearing from someone soon via e-mail.

Thanks so much! I'll pop in to check on you and so I can understand what is found.

Tamara Tarasova

As I was playing with another model, I figured out that the Previous button gets stuck when I have an extra slide as a placeholder that I decided to do to resolve the navigation on Quiz Review. When I do not have a placeholder, the previous button works fine on the revisit, BUT then the Next button on the quiz when revisiting does not advance to the next scene. So there is definitely the problem of different scenes and I either have the smooth quiz review (with extra slide) or the smooth Back button when learners are still in the course (without extra slide). Hope that helps focusing on the problem. 

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