Hi - we are often asked by our clients to advise on using RISE to create courses and then load them under a specific LMS. There have been many, many discussions over the years here on E-learning Heroes and I am keen to fully understand the issues. I'm hoping the community can help me.
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My understanding is that there three main issues designers encounter:
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(1) Progress tracking and course completion. To allow the RISE course to pass tracking information to the LMS, it must be published for LMS, and that means loading the course as a SCORM or xAPI module. So if your LMS doesn't support SCORM or xAPI, you are in trouble.
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(2) Conflicting Course Structure and Navigation - Most LMS's have a course hierarchy including Courses which consist of Lessons which, in turn may (in some LMS's) be subdivided into Topics. So the challenge is how do you load a RISE module. If you load it as a Lesson it will appear in the LMS Course Navigation menu. But, RISE has it's own internal hierachy with a Course Overview and Lessons - PLUS it has it's own Lesson Navigation menu. This can lead to a situation where you have two navigation menus on screen. Here the options appear to be either (a) load the RISE module in a separate window or (b) disable the RISE navigation which, fortunately, is an optional setting.
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(3) Display Frame Size Issues - One of the main reasons why people like RISE is it's free format visual display, unlike Storyline it is not 'frame-based' it behaves much more like a responsive website which is great for touch screens and smaller screen devices. If you want to include a RISE module in your LMS but you don't want to open it in a separate window, then it will be displayed in an iframe. And the size of that iframe is likely to be dictated by the LMS lesson template. Hence people report problems with small frame sizes and fixed height frames which result in horizontal or vertical scroll bars (or both) leading to two vertical scroll bars on the page and not the free format display which is RISE's great strength.
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Have I captured the issues - Or are there more???
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My understanding is that there three main issues designers encounter:
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(1) Progress tracking and course completion. To allow the RISE course to pass tracking information to the LMS, it must be published for LMS, and that means loading the course as a SCORM or xAPI module. So if your LMS doesn't support SCORM or xAPI, you are in trouble.
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(2) Conflicting Course Structure and Navigation - Most LMS's have a course hierarchy including Courses which consist of Lessons which, in turn may (in some LMS's) be subdivided into Topics. So the challenge is how do you load a RISE module. If you load it as a Lesson it will appear in the LMS Course Navigation menu. But, RISE has it's own internal hierachy with a Course Overview and Lessons - PLUS it has it's own Lesson Navigation menu. This can lead to a situation where you have two navigation menus on screen. Here the options appear to be either (a) load the RISE module in a separate window or (b) disable the RISE navigation which, fortunately, is an optional setting.
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(3) Display Frame Size Issues - One of the main reasons why people like RISE is it's free format visual display, unlike Storyline it is not 'frame-based' it behaves much more like a responsive website which is great for touch screens and smaller screen devices. If you want to include a RISE module in your LMS but you don't want to open it in a separate window, then it will be displayed in an iframe. And the size of that iframe is likely to be dictated by the LMS lesson template. Hence people report problems with small frame sizes and fixed height frames which result in horizontal or vertical scroll bars (or both) leading to two vertical scroll bars on the page and not the free format display which is RISE's great strength.
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Have I captured the issues - Or are there more???
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You may have students reporting that they are seeing a blank screen when resuming a Rise course that was just updated.
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Here is one scenario that can cause the blank screen problem.
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You create a Rise course with several Lessons and publish it to the LMS. Students start using it, and there are no problems.
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Then you edit the Rise course, delete one Lesson and add two new Lessons, republish to the LMS, and overwrite the previous version of the course.
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Now you have students with an \"in progress\" status reporting that they are seeing a blank screen when resuming that Rise course.
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This problem occurs because the student suspend data loaded from the LMS, no longer matches the structure of the previous version of the course, causing the Rise course to hang up
","body@stringLength":"882","rawBody":"Hi John,
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You may have students reporting that they are seeing a blank screen when resuming a Rise course that was just updated.
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Here is one scenario that can cause the blank screen problem.
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You create a Rise course with several Lessons and publish it to the LMS. Students start using it, and there are no problems.
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Then you edit the Rise course, delete one Lesson and add two new Lessons, republish to the LMS, and overwrite the previous version of the course.
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Now you have students with an \"in progress\" status reporting that they are seeing a blank screen when resuming that Rise course.
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This problem occurs because the student suspend data loaded from the LMS, no longer matches the structure of the previous version of the course, causing the Rise course to hang up
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