Maybe they did a right click and inspect instead of testing with a screen reader. But if for some reason they are hearing it w/ whatever screen reader they are using, I would just rename the file "[client name] logo" and leave it at that. Tell them their employees know where they work. ;)
To be fair, not every screen reader user is blind - I know two who are low vision and would be wondering what logos they're looking at. So it is not a great choice to have the logos be automatically skipped (and would certainly be pinged in an audit).
We're working on a collaborative course so it's not as simple as the employees knowing where they work unfortunately, we'd like them to see/hear our logo since we're an external provider. Would really like to see this changed!
I can see your point there, TK! Could you put something in the course description instead, reflecting that the course was a collaboration by you as an external provider?
Absolutely, and that's definitely the best solution available. My concern is more that there are people who will be able to see or tell that an image is there, but not what the image is (it seems from the original post that it is discoverable by screen reader somehow). Not being able to choose whether something is marked decorative or given alt text is always going to be an accessibility issue unfortunately.
I see that you've submitted a feature request to our product team as well. We'll be sure to update you on future enhancements to Rise 360's accessibility features. Have a great rest of your week!
Thanks Steven! We deliver accessibility training so we're fairly passionate about alt text. I appreciate the team considering my request. Have a lovely day!
TK, I posted about this in another thread, and realized I had totally neglected alt tags, so I added the alt as well as a matching Title attribute. Title attributes are so helpful for sighted people I wish they were used more often, not even sure how the title attr affects accessibility but I assume it can't hurt. This is my demo showing custom authors section with custom html, instead of a logo.
Hi Phil, I'm working in Rise360 and wasn't aware there's a way to add custom HTML - how did you manage that?
If it helps, there's nothing wrong with adding a title accessibility wise, it's just won't function as a substitute for alt text. Having both is fine :)
Cool thx. What I'm doing is exploiting Rise's simple text editor to insert html. I explain the most complex part- using image data uri in this video- https://youtu.be/wjbYhUKuARU The other part is using flexbox to achieve these (responsive) columns, but if you just need a logo with an alt you can use this method in the cover page description, instead of using the 'add logo' option in rise.
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Hey Kandice,
Screen readers automatically skip the logo and also the cover photo if there is one, so there's no spot to add alt text.
-EP
Hey!
So, why is my client calling me out for no alt-text there? I do not have the logo at any other place in the course.
KK
Maybe they did a right click and inspect instead of testing with a screen reader. But if for some reason they are hearing it w/ whatever screen reader they are using, I would just rename the file "[client name] logo" and leave it at that. Tell them their employees know where they work. ;)
To be fair, not every screen reader user is blind - I know two who are low vision and would be wondering what logos they're looking at. So it is not a great choice to have the logos be automatically skipped (and would certainly be pinged in an audit).
We're working on a collaborative course so it's not as simple as the employees knowing where they work unfortunately, we'd like them to see/hear our logo since we're an external provider. Would really like to see this changed!
I can see your point there, TK! Could you put something in the course description instead, reflecting that the course was a collaboration by you as an external provider?
Absolutely, and that's definitely the best solution available. My concern is more that there are people who will be able to see or tell that an image is there, but not what the image is (it seems from the original post that it is discoverable by screen reader somehow). Not being able to choose whether something is marked decorative or given alt text is always going to be an accessibility issue unfortunately.
Hi TK!
Thanks for the feedback!
I see that you've submitted a feature request to our product team as well. We'll be sure to update you on future enhancements to Rise 360's accessibility features. Have a great rest of your week!
Thanks Steven! We deliver accessibility training so we're fairly passionate about alt text. I appreciate the team considering my request. Have a lovely day!
TK, I posted about this in another thread, and realized I had totally neglected alt tags, so I added the alt as well as a matching Title attribute. Title attributes are so helpful for sighted people I wish they were used more often, not even sure how the title attr affects accessibility but I assume it can't hurt. This is my demo showing custom authors section with custom html, instead of a logo.
Hi Phil, I'm working in Rise360 and wasn't aware there's a way to add custom HTML - how did you manage that?
If it helps, there's nothing wrong with adding a title accessibility wise, it's just won't function as a substitute for alt text. Having both is fine :)
Cool thx. What I'm doing is exploiting Rise's simple text editor to insert html. I explain the most complex part- using image data uri in this video- https://youtu.be/wjbYhUKuARU
The other part is using flexbox to achieve these (responsive) columns, but if you just need a logo with an alt you can use this method in the cover page description, instead of using the 'add logo' option in rise.