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Is there a way to indent sub-bullet points in a list?
I have made a list, but I'd like to further indent some bullets, similar to the Sub-bullet text below. Is this possible?
- Sample
- Sample
- Sub-bullet
- Sub-bullet
- Sample
- MichelleAllanCommunity Member
Thanks Justin — proper bullet indents are super important for readability, usability and accessibility.
Cheers,
Mich- osupaceCommunity Member
Agreed.
Hey folks! Sub-bullets are available now with the new text editing features we released in August. Here's how it's done:
- Type the bulleted list
- Highlight the bullets to be indented
- Select the increase indent button
I hope that's helpful!
- CrystalAlmonteCommunity Member
Hi there I just tried doing this and it doesn't appear to be working. I am using a Mac I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Please help.
- KarlMullerCommunity Member
What problem exactly are you experiencing?
What are you trying to do?
- AmyPapp-ebdd69aCommunity Member
This only works in a paragraph block. I cannot make it work in bullet list block. Indenting the paragraph moves the text in, but does not indent the actual bullet - it says aligned all the other bullets on the left. Ideas?
- CNavarroFormer Staff
Hi Amy! That is correct. The indent only affects the text bullet in a paragraph. I will let the team know that you need the ability to add sub-bullets in the bullet block.
- YunZhang-2acb3eCommunity Member
Hi Alyssa, thanks for the demonstration!
but I couldn't find the increase indent button at the place you showed.
Was it moved to smewhere else?
- DonaldKernsCommunity Member
- While you can create bullets and sub-bullets by formatting the text, if your text is long (or the user views on a smaller device) the Rise approach to formatting means bullets/sub-bullets wrap back to the left margin (so you do not truly get bullets/sub-bullets).
- Because Articulate has not provided an editor which allows editing the HTML, the formatting often gets corrupt by incorporating other lines of text and authors often have to start over because we have no HTML control (i.e., nested lists can easily be edited if a true HTML editor is provided).
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Rise Lists
- The Rise Numbered List and Checkbox list (blocks) work well for the numbered lists and checkbox lists (although I would like more control over bullet/text and line spacing and editing them is a pain because each is a separate item).
- However, (1) the "Bulleted List" block is almost useless because of the small bullets used (almost invisible on an iPhone 5), (2) the distance away from the text is too large, and (3) there is no ability to change the bullet - authors should be able to pick any available character or glyph, e.g., Bootstrap, Google, etc.). Note the difference in distance between the bullets and text in this Articulate Community editor vs the Rise "Bulleted list" block. (see attached file)
- You cannot use the Rise Lists within any other blocks such as Interactive > Accordion (your only option is to format the text as bullet/sub-bullet and let the text wrap back to the margin...).
- You cannot indent or use sub-bullets in any of the Rise List blocks. Why?
- We would love to see a responsive two-column lists (e.g., when small screen, move the column 2 list below the column 1 list). This would be similar to the Image/Text block already provided). With no control over the spacing of list text/items, we need to be able to create two-column lists to save vertical space.
- I know of no other eLearning software with text formatting that does not provide hanging indent capability! Actually, I don't know of any software or online system that uses the Rise approach to formatting bulleted (or numbered) lists!
- Interestingly, the Rise text editor doesn't work anything like this Articulate Community editor (which properly format bullets/sub-bullets as hanging indents -- mostly, since the sub-bullet incorrectly uses the same bullet character regardless of the number of levels). If Articulate programmers need to reference something that works, start with your own Community editor!
- EVERY SME who has reviewed a Rise project for us has asked about the formatting of these bullets/sub-bullets (wrapping to left margin). It is ugly and does not appear as most users expect.
- When you dig down into the generated HTML for a Rise project, it isn’t that Articulate hasn't been using nested <ul> and <li> to create their formatted bullets/sub-bullets -- instead, the problem is that they are intentionally applying CSS styles that make it appear so ugly/misformed! THIS IS A BUG NOT A FEATURE! PLEASE FIX YOUR CSS! Create and apply new styles, if necessary.
- Honestly, we should not even have to ask Articulate for such an obvious fix...this and the ability to move blocks/groups of blocks between lessons and courses should have been incorporated into Rise long ago...
Hi -
Great question and I could see a lot of uses for that. It's not currently a feature within Rise to have a sub bulleted or additional indent. I can share that with our team who is looking at ideas for new features and functionality though. Also, you're always welcome to share your ideas in the form of a feature request here.
- JustinStaff
Hi, Michelle.
We've got some additional text formatting options on the roadmap, and we'll consider this specific feature as well. Thanks for weighing in on it!
In the interim, a nifty workaround might be to paste a bullet character into a text block instead. Here's a quick Peek at how I might do that.
- JamieTraynor-26Community Member
Same here, could really use sub bullets.
Donald - thanks so much for reporting the wrapping indent bug. We were already aware of it and are currently working on a fix for that. We'll also add some line spacing between the bullets for better readability.
I will also have our team dig into your other suggestions. Thanks again, we really appreciate all your feedback.
Adam
- MichelleAllanCommunity Member
Hi Ashley,
This is a pretty important feature for me - is it something that's now on the road map, and if yes, when can we expect it to be implemented?
Cheers,
Mich - ITSoviniCommunity Member
Do we have any idea when this feature may go live? It's such a fundamental feature that's missing on Rise. I'm just creating my first course in Rise but may have to go back to Storyline which seems a real shame.
- MikeOlivieri-6fFormer Staff
Donald, the fix for list item text wrapping and alignment that Adam mentioned has shipped. Thanks for the feedback!
- DorrienVenab103Community Member
This is so much better, thank you :-)