Cannot find variables to allow only one 2nd attempt for a scored quiz

Hi Vincent,

You can set the number of attempts by clicking on the Question tab in the Storyline menu, whilst in Form View, and selecting the Attempts drop-down list.

There is no requirement to set up any extra triggers as this system will work automatically. After the second failed attempt, the Try Again button should not be visible and the user will be jumped to the next slide.

Hi Ned,

Selecting the attempts like you showed hereabove will work BY QUESTION, which is not what I need.

I need the student to be able to make one more try but ONLY AFTER THE FINAL RESULT, and of course in case he failed.

The point is, I am committed to follow my customer requirements  (aviation training institute) which demand that a test must be built that way:

1)_Students perform the whole quiz with no other feedback than the final score (80% passing grade);

2)_In case they fail, they have only one more chance to restart the whole quiz (which means 2 attempts);

3)_No final review of the correct/wrong answers

4)_Maximum allowed time 30mn.

And that's it: my quiz must fulfil these 4 criterias.

Another question: how can we hide the left menu ? Unlike course modules which can show a navigation menu pane, the quiz is not supposed to have this.

Many thanks to help me solve this issue.

Cheers,

Vincent

Hi Vincent,

Thank you for the additional information above. Now that I have a better understanding of what you are after, I will look into this and get back to you shortly.

What you want to do is achievable using variables and triggers and so I will put together a simplified example that should enable you to get your course to work the way you want it to.

Great, looking forward to it, many thanks !

Hi Vincent.

I have a similar set up on courses I have created but the learners are allowed 3 attempts at the quiz. I have attached an image of the triggers on the failure layer.

I move the retry button from the result slide and put it on the failure layer.

Create a variable labelled 'Quiz_Count' set at 0.

I have a Feedback slide that they jump to if they fail the quiz for a 3rd time.

Layer Trigger: See attachment

Slide Triggers: See attachment

The only issue is that it only works if they try the quiz 3 times on the same session. If they close the course and start again, they can have another 3 attempts. Also, when tracking you don't know how many attempts they have had.

Hope this helps.

Allison

Hi Vincent,

I thought I had this all sorted out a while ago, but just couldn't find a way to reset the quiz results. However, Allison has just come to my rescue with her post above and, thanks to her included image of the triggers she used, I have now found out about the Reset Results trigger -- thank you Allison !! As a result, the attached example is now working as I think you want it to.

In the example, I have set up the quiz in a similar way to Allison and, as she has suggested, I had also moved the Review button to the Failure layer and renamed it Retry Quiz. You will see that I have also set up a Second Failure layer so that I could display a different message after the second failure and also not have the Retry button visible. This could have been achieved on one failure layer by showing and hiding the button and different text boxes, but I thought that a second failure layer was a simpler solution.

Hope this helps and a big thank you to Allison :-)

Hi Vincent,

Further to my last post, I forgot to mention about hiding the menu on the quiz slides.

If you go to Story View and select all of the quiz slides, go to the bottom right of the screen and select Custom for the Selected Slides from the Player Features drop down in Slide Properties, you can then deselect the Menu option for those slides:

The menu will remain available on all the other slides, but will be hidden on the quiz slides.

Glad I could help.

Hi Ned and Allison and thanks for your help.

I did the modifications according to your advices but it doesn't work,

I mean: after a second failure, I still have the first failure slide.

It probably comes from the variable I've created following your messages, first I created a variable named Attempts and set the its default value to zero, then I set the trigger conditions exactly as you mentionned, but it didn't work.

Then I created a new variable called Quiz_Count (default value zero) and it didn't work either.

Just a question: does Storyline understand these variables (do they mean something in its program language) ? Does the software understand that for instance Quiz_Count (or Attempts) means what we know it means (LOL), otherwise how can we make it understand ?

I hope you understand what I'm talking about ?

Please see my project attached as have a look at what is wrong.

With many thanks for your help.

Hi Vincent

I have amended your variable, it is called Attempt. I have also modified your triggers and it works as it should. I failed the test twice and it took me to the second layer and I had to exit the course.

I have attached the Storyline file with modifications. Let me know if this works for you.

Allison

Hi Vincent,

The reason why your quiz was not working correctly is because you missed out one trigger on your first quiz slide, the one that adds a value of 1 to the Attempts variable:

Whether you use Attempts or Quiz_Count doesn't matter as Storyline will work with whatever variable names you select. Obviously if you use Quiz_Count, you need to set the variable on the first quiz slide accordingly (i.e. swap Quiz_Count for Attempts).

With these changes made, your quiz works correctly and the second failure layer appears after your second failed attempt.

Thank you so much for your help !

And sorry for having bothered you ;-))

Hi Vincent,

It's no bother at all and I am glad that Allison and I were able to help. This is what the forum is for; so if you ever have any other queries, just raise them here and I am sure someone will help you out.

Hi Vincent

I agree with Ned, happy to help. I was in the same position as you 3 years ago and it was from an old post on the forum that I found out how to apply these variables and triggers.

Allison