Issues compiling results slides and final exam

Hi Vivanne,

Thanks for sharing your file here. I previewed the course, and I didn't find that I came across any of the initial results slides even though I could see them in the individual scenes. So I wasn't able to experience the odd behavior with the scores not showing?

I also noticed not every scene that had a quiz draw had a results slide, and the ones that did were often before the quiz draw and had no questions selected for tracking - so that would explain the zeros. 🙂

The user would need to have visited the questions and then the results slide to see the score passed correctly - and they'll need to visit each results slide to calculate the total score for that section and the final results slide too. The final results slide was set up to track and combine the scores of all the prior results slides - so that looked to be working as expected.

Let me know if you need anything else! 

Hi Ashley,

If you look at scene #2 for example. The exam works, but somehow it skips straingt to the next scene and by-passes the result slide altogether.

I'm wondering if there should be a trigger after the exam that prompts the user to click next to advance to the result slide?

I went in and corrected the issue of the result slide being before the exam, and I'm having the same problem.

My result slide is a custom one instead of being a graded one. Could this cause my issues?

Also, when I have the result slide in view, I click on the grey Edit Results Slide button, and it shows that the correct question bank draw is selected.

I really have no idea why it's doing this.

Hi Viviane,

Yes, scene 2 is what I was looking at as one of the examples, and if you preview that one scene you'll notice that upon finishing the questions it'll tell you that "the slide target is not available in preview" which indicates that it's pointing to something outside that scene and not the results slide which appears next in the scene and slide order.

Results slide 5.6 was the one that didn't have any question banks selected and appears before the quiz. 

I don't see anything on your individual question draw slides that are causing this and it works as expected with the same set up of no feedback, question draw, and a results slide in a sample file.

You mentioned creating these as custom results slides - but they look to have the graded elements included such as the variable reference and the ability to edit it as a results slide? Were you duplicating a results slide or creating it anew each time? 

Any other information you can share about how it was created may pinpoint the cause or give me a hint of something else to look at - as I'm a bit stumped right now too! 

I played around with it and got it to work.

Thank you for your help

Don't leave a girl hanging! What was it? 🙂

Seems like it did not like the custom results slides, so I deleted them and used graded slides instead.

There were some odd triggers too (can't remember now) on the exam itself so I replaced them with jump to slide (result slide number) when user clicks next page.

Then to move from the result slide to the next chapter, I had to create a new trigger jump to next scene when user clicks next.

Me again :( 

So.. I thought I had it figured out but I realized that I have to add a second results slide in order to pull results from all 4 end of chapter tests.

My question is,  after playing the whole course and did the four tests, my final results slide, set to average out the four results, is not calculating properly.

First test = 60%   Second test = 75%  Third test = 70%  Fourth test = 90%

The final score on my slide should show 73.75% but shows 60%

What am I missing?

Whew! That's a long course Viviane :)

Looks like you have the final results slide set to combine points from each quiz prior, so it would be points received/total points available. Looks like each quiz had a different # of questions, so this would not be an even percentage average.

I cannot fully test my theory because it looks like you've shared 4/5 results percentages.

What was the score for the 5th test? 

I'm assuming you've shared:

Scene 2: 60%

Scene 5: 75%

Scene 6: 70%

Scene 7: 90%

What was the score for Scene 8 prior to the compiled results?

Hi Viviane,

I took a peek in your file, and you actually have 5 tests. Your final results slide combines the scores of 5 other results slides:

If you skipped one of the tests, then with the scores you shared above, the average would be 60%. 

Is it possible that you skipped one of the tests as you were going through the file?

Scene 8 was 70

so if I add all those scores and divide by 5, it's still 73%

Do you think the issue is that I need to have the same amount of questions in each test?

I can't really do that for the scene 8 test.

Hi Viviane! You're correct, that doesn't sound quite right. It looks like you have all of the questions with the same points, so I was incorrect in my first hypothesis.

Do you experience the same issue with my published file here? Curious if it may be an issue with your LMS.

I haven't published it to the LMS yet, only did the preview mode in SL2.

Could it be the calculation formula that sits in the background that we need to go change manually?  I'm not sure how to do that.

I will check your published file this morning and see if it behaves the same.

Ok, let me know what you find.

My brief test (with less questions per draw) seemed to work as expected. I figured you could take a peek at your actual course much quicker than I could :) 

So I did the whole course and tests in the environment you gave me, and it's still not working.

Exam 1 = 40%

Exam 2 = 90%

Exam 3 = 90%

Exam 4 = 60%

Exam 5 = 85%

Total = 365/5 = 73%

The results slide is giving me 78.18%

Is there another way I could go about to achieve what I want?

Hi Viviane!

Thank you for those numbers and sharing the results.

So, each of your quizzes have a different number of total 'points'/questions.

Since you are scoring by Combining Points from each quiz, here's the result.

• Exam 1 = 40% (20 points)
  • This quiz has 5 questions for a total of 50 points
• Exam 2 = 90% (90 points)
  • This quiz has 10 questions for a total of 100 points
• Exam 3 = 90% (90 points)
  • This quiz has 10 questions for a total of 100 points

• Exam 4 = 60% (60 points)
  
  • This quiz has 10 questions for a total of 100 points
• Exam 5 = 85% (170 points)
  • This quiz has 20 questions for a total of 200 points

So, the total points you scored was 430 out of a total of 550 possible, which is 78.18%

If you need them all to be the same 'weight' so that the percentages work well (and you mentioned you did not want to match up the number of questions per quiz), I would advise updating the points/question in Exam 1 from 10 points to 20 points (for a total of 100) and in Exam 5 from 10 points to 5 points (for a total of 100).

The same test results then would be 73% as you are expecting.

I hope that helps. Thanks for testing/confirming :)

That did the trick!  Thank you all for your help.

So much to learn!

Yay! Glad to hear it Viviane :) 

I'm learning everyday still, but glad that was able to assist you. Thanks for letting me know.

one more quick question,  is there a function that I can use that would do this:

Exclude all previously asked question from the final exam random draw?

I have a pool of about 70 question for the final test (exam 5) and I find quite a few of the questions previously asked at random in previous tests come back up.

Ah, now that's a challenge Viviane. Are you re-using a question bank? Random draw is just that. Hopefully someone in the community that has overcome this will be able to chime in and assist with this design. Setting some variables as this user shared could work, but I know you have a lot of questions.

I'm thinking:

Don't randomize the 4 first exams,chose set questions, and exclude those questions from the randomization on Exam 5.  I think that would be the easiest.

Using the variables will over complicate what I'm trying to achieve.

I'll post a new discussion if this doesn't work.

I agree, I hesitated to even mention it. I like the simplicity of your thinking :) Hope that works well for you, but you know where to find us.

That worked perfectly for my needs. 

Sometimes we tend to overcomplicate.

How right you are :)

Glad that worked and thanks for the update Viviane.