Select and move multiple Items in Tab order

Hello :)

While working on screen reader compatible courses,  arranging multiple elements on a screen  in the tab order seems tedious, specially while sorting multiple elements of related content. 

E.g., Button 1  on screen > brings up layer 1 (which has some 4 elements - title, text box, image, close button). In total, there are 5 elements to be sorted in the tab order.     

If the number of buttons on screen is more (10), then the sorting becomes tedious with each click (10*5=50).

Can you suggest if there an option to select the all the related/multiple elements in tab order  (in this case button 1) and move them together?

25 Replies
Matthew Bibby

The current tab order window is very limiting. 

One thing I do is set up all of my master slides first (including layers for resources, menus etc.) Then I get the tab order correct for the first slide, including all of the objects on the slide masters.

Next, I start developing the course, but rather than insert new blank slides, I duplicate the initial slide as I know the tab order is right. 

So as I develop each slide, I can quickly adjust the tab order for the objects unique to that slide, with the rest of it already taken care of.

And with things like menus... know that you may need to add new items late in the development process. This can be very frustrating as it would involve adjusting the tab order on every slide. So when developing the menu, you can have some placeholder objects set up in the right tab order and then just hide them until you potentially need them.

Kiran K

Thanks Matthew! It sounds good 😊👍🏻. Unfortunately, in this case, every single slide is different with its set of new items. There’s not much scope to reuse the slides that were sorted earlier. 

For now, sorting objects in each group as they are created. One group at a time - create objects, sort them..and create the next group. 

Matthew Bibby

Inconsiderate user interfaces, like the focus order window, should be outlawed.

I've had RSI for over a decade. Setting the focus order literally causes me pain.

Yesterday I had to adjust the focus order for a relatively simple course. It was built with accessibility in mind, so a lot of the focus order was preset and duplicated. Yet, it still took me almost 10 minutes to drag stuff around in that window.

And no, I don't mean for the whole course, but for each slide!

So here I am, in a fancy ergonomic chair, at a fancy ergonomic desk, using a vertical mouse while wearing arthritis gloves, dragging stuff around in that stupid little window for a couple of hours. I have to take time out to rest my hands and do stretches so that I don't damage them further.

There are many ways that this could be improved. Obvious stuff like allowing us to select multiple items, allowing us to set a focus order for a master slide and have it carry over to slides that use that. You could make the focus order window bigger and increase the scroll speed. You could add a text box next to each object where we can enter a number that shows how it should be ordered. Or let us export a CSV where I can rearrange things and then import it back into Storyline. 

Please.

Natalia Martin

Hi Alyssa: 

I'm new to Storyline 360 and trying to find a way to select multiple items to create a costume focus order still doesn't seem like an option as other users reported. this is a very tedious and time consuming process. Is there an update on this feature becoming available? 

Thank you,

Natalia 

Matthew Bibby

Lauren, this feature is very impactful. See my post above about how it negatively impacts my quality of life daily. 

I cannot think of a UI change that Articulate could make that would have more of a positive impact on the usability of Storyline, especially given the current focus on improving accessibility of Articulate products.

As a company, you shouldn't still be "determining where this sits on our roadmap". That should have been done 5 years ago when this issue was first brought to Articulate's attention.

I hate to say it, but more and more, I get the feeling that Articulate isn't listening. Maybe it's time to determine where listening to your customers sits on the roadmap? 

Mark Banit

Completely agree with everything said here. Beyond Storyline examples like this, look at all of the topics in this forum around Rise... so many requests to address bugs or add core functionality that are over 4 years old and haven't been addressed. Crucial accessibility-related items with Rise have been 'in development' for years, even though they had promised it would be fully accessible by the end of 2020. 

Instead the focus is just spent continually putting out non-accessible pre-built templates that the majority of existing customers will never use, and calling them new features.

It's definitely time for Articulate to finally prioritize listening to existing (paying!) customers.

Maria Costa-Stienstra

Hi, everyone.

I have great news to share!

We just released another update for Storyline 360. In Update 63, we’ve included important fixes, new features, and enhancements.

One of the enhancements we’ve included is:

Customize the accessibility focus order faster. Select multiple objects, then move or remove them all at once.

For additional information, check out this article!

To take advantage of this update, launch the Articulate 360 desktop app on your computer and click the Update button next to Storyline 360. You'll find our step-by-step instructions here.

Please let us know if you have any questions by reaching out to our Support Engineers directly.

Maria Costa-Stienstra

Hi, Sarah.

Thank you for reaching out!

Here are the steps:

  • Select Create a custom focus order.
  • Select the first item, hold down the Shift key, then select the last item you'd like to select.
    • If the items are not next to each other, use the Ctrl key to select multiple ones.
  • Use the arrows (on the bottom right of the window) to move them Up/Down

See below:

Screen Recording 2022-06-13 at 04.32.52 PM

If you're experiencing something different, can you share a screen recording so we can help you troubleshoot?

I hope this helps!