Slider Frustration!

May 08, 2017

I'm attaching a self-assessment activity, but I really only need help on the slide called 3.2 Comm Styles. If you go through the entire activity (which you don't have to do, but I included it for context), you will see that the scores for the first two parts of the activity will show up on slide 3.2 Comm Styles.

When users get to that slide, they are asked to move a slider to reflect their score on each activity. There are four quadrants on the slide, so if they move the blue slider to anything higher than 8 and the red slide higher than 8, I want the text box "Socializer" to appear. The other three quadrants have different words and scores. This will make sense when you look at it!

My problem is that I can't figure out how to make the triggers work for both sliders.  I tried using triggers on the text boxes to change the state to normal IF the blue slider had a certain value AND the red slider had a certain value. Ultimately, the trigger attaches to the slider, not the textbox. I have also tried using triggers that reveal layers, but that didn't work. 

Just to be clear, here is what I want to happen:

  • When SliderBlue > 7 AND SliderRed > 7, the Socializer textbox is revealed.
  • When SliderBlue > 7 AND SliderRed < 8, the Relator textbox is revealed.
  • When SliderBlue < 8 AND SliderRed > 7, the Director textbox is revealed.
  • When SliderBlue < 8 AND SliderRed < 8, the Thinker textbox is revealed.

The last five slides explain what those terms mean.

I hope someone can help with this! I've been tearing my hair out trying to figure it out and just can't get it to do what I want. Thank you in advance!

Jennifer

9 Replies
Walt Hamilton

You said " I tried using triggers on the text boxes to change the state to normal IF the blue slider had a certain value AND the red slider had a certain value.   I have also tried using triggers that reveal layers, but that didn't work. ", so the problem probably isn't with the textbox.

I can't open your file, but here are some guesses.

This can only work if the sliders step only by whole numbers. 7.5 is both > 7 and < 8.

Check the variables carefully. Be sure the slider is attached to the same one as the condition part of the trigger.

You have to write 4 separate triggers, You can't combine any of them.

It depends most of all on the when part of the triggers. I recommend when the variable changes. If you are using when the slider changes, it may not work depending on when you have the variable set to update.

Jennifer Frank

First, thank you for your answer and I wish you could open the file! 

Second, I'm not sure I understand this part of your answer: "Be sure the slider is attached to the same one as the condition part of the trigger." Are you saying that I can or should group the two sliders? It seems like I tried that early on. I've been interrupted several times on this project.

Third, I have been writing four separate triggers. The "when" part definitely could be the problem. I've been selecting "when SliderBlue" and then the number, either < 7 or > 8. I also added a condition that SliderRed should also be a particular number.

The part about the whole number makes sense and I think I did that right.

Wendy Farmer

Hi Jennifer

I've just had a quick look and the blue slider when selected on screen is referencing the SliderGreen variable and I don't SliderGreen referenced in the triggers on slide 3.2. I'm at the airport so I don't really have time to change it and then check the file (you'd be quicker doing that) - hope that helps.

 

Jennifer Frank

Thank you, Wendy! Apparently I attached an earlier version of the file because I got rid of SliderGreen entirely. :~)

Walt was right that my problem has to do with "when." Basically, I don't want any of the words to appear until after the user has moved both sliders. I added a trigger to pause the timeline at the beginning and another to restart the timeline after the variable SliderRed changes. In the narration, I can specify that users should move the blue slider first and then the red slider. I also adjusted when the textboxes will appear in the timeline. That doesn't seem to have done anything.

So these changes still didn't fix it, but I'm getting  close! I'm attaching the revision and am SO OPEN to more suggestions.  

Walt Hamilton

Jennifer,

Take a look at this. I used layers for the textboxes, because I'm being lazy. They could all be on the base layer. They would be set to have an initial state of hidden, then change to normal when you want them to show. The problem with that approach is that you have to write triggers to set all the rest to hidden when a new one shows.

I took the liberty of showing the Thinker only when both are = 7, but you can change that. I also hid them all if both sliders fall below 7.

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