Grouped icons fall apart when moving.

Apr 04, 2018

Hi everyone, 

sorry if this has been answered/resolved before but I'm unable to find a thread on it. Occasionally when moving 2 or more icons in a group (to make one icon) they morph beyond all recognition. Pressing "undo" only moves the bounding box back and doesn't effect the icons. So there is no way to recover the icons. Has anyone else experienced this diabolical bug and come up with a workaround? It happens after copying and pasting the icons into another project. Obviously that is the only way to move assets as Storyline eschews an asset library interface. The two images below show what happens when moving the groups about 15 pixels to the left. As I say there is no recovery process. 

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16 Replies
Walt Hamilton

Amanda, having problems with groups is well-known in SL. Less known, but (in my opinion), worse are the problems of trying to copy and paste between projects. it may not help in this situation, but importing the slide and erasing the unwanted objects is the only successful method of moving objects from one project to the next. As i say, Micheal's experience suggests that this may not work in this case, but I think it is preferable to changing them to one graphic image.

On the other hand, FWIW, if you are going to go the one graphic route, I find using a snipping tool faster than saving as a picture.

Amanda McC

I appreciate the insight. At the moment, with the various project versions I am working on, I think importing entire slides and deleting unwanted assets would be so time consuming as to defeat the object as I'm working with so many small icons. However you have given me an idea to create an "asset slide" in each project and use that to move the icons around. Thanks for the tip!

MARK DIGIACOMO

So this is a 2-year-old issue and it has not been addressed by Articulate. SMH... Anyway, this may help someone: One of the issues here is that sub-grouped objects can confuse Storyline. Being that it appears to be built, more or less, on a PowerPoint framework, on-screen vector graphic manipulation is quite limited in many key respects. 

If you have objects grouped WITHIN your main group, this could exacerbate the issue outlined at the start of this thread. SL doesn't seem to understand how to manage the multiple grouping relationships, and you try moving the group or resizing it, and it goes pretty haywire. Try ungrouping everything and regroup as one group. It seems to have mostly solved the issue for me. 

Azizi Abdullah

Same issue for me. I tried to get around the "icons have no fill and are difficult to click" issue by combining an icon and a shape within a state, only to discover this issue with copying/moving the now two objects. Grrrrrr....I've been using Rise recently and this is the first time I've used Storyline in months. What a reward!

FYI I've tried all of the above, as well as changing monitor resolutions, zoom factors, and opening Storyline in the main and extended display to no avail. Totally agree with Mark that the graphics manipulation capability of Storyline is lacking. Please fix Articulate!

Azizi Abdullah

Thanks for the advice Walt, I'll try that next time. I've now given up on this Storyline interaction. I was trying to build it into Rise to make the Rise course more mobile compatible. The Storyline interaction had a zoom region in it, but when the user touched the zoomed content on their mobile screen, the slide would 'slide' across to an another part of the same slide. No doubt another known glitch with Storyline, but I've run out of patience. I'm going back to Rise, because it works....Thanks. 

Brett Conlon

Yes, definitely STILL a glitch with Undo and grouped/sub-grouped objects - it happens to me multiple times a week. I just had this happen now, where I pasted an item ON TOP of a grouped element (with sub-groups). I then moved the pasted item to another location on top of the group, but wasn't happy so I pressed Undo and the objects INSIDE the grouped element actually horizontally scaled to around 130% wider. No matter what I do now, the grouped objects WILL NOT correct back to what they were. I'm going to have to either close the unsaved project (losing other edits I've made) or manually fix it - which is a problem because I have the elements on this slide aligned with a Move animation to the previous slide.

SUCH A PAIN!

BTW, sometimes I find that when grouped objects go weird after pressing Undo, if I select the group and nudge it with the arrow keys (ie press the left, then right arrow keys to put the object back where it was), they will often correct themselves. Unfortunately that didn't work for me today, hence why I'm in here looking for solace with other frustrated Storyline users.

This is a MAJOR glitch and I'm sad to see it's this old!

Griffin Davis

+1 this is still an existing bug that is incredibly frustrating and a time waster having to fix what the undo function messed up. See the pictures below for an example of what a group and sub groups normally looked like and then what undoing a move did to the group.