A client group is requesting that we set our Assessments so that learners only have to retake questions that they answered incorrectly. Can't see that this is possible in the software, but wanted to check the forum. Anybody know how this might be done?
I've tested this again, and the file I sent seems to be working so that if you retry the quiz and bypass the drag and drop question, it still scores correctly (it's being marked as correct even when you skip over it). Let me know if you see something different!
Here is a really simple sample file of how you can use the "dropped correct" state to submit an interaction. This would be if you don't want the user to click the submit button as a way to submit the interaction.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that the retry button was pointing to the 'Question 1' slide (which is actually question 2 since the drag and drop question was added in before it) so it would skip past the drag and drop regardless of the answer submitted. I adjusted this to go to the drag and drop question instead (first quiz question) and I got the same results as my own attempt where: if answered correctly on first attempt, it would skip past the question but not add the score to the second attempt.
Ashley, thanks so much for the upload. I tried adding this trigger into Ashley's example to see if it would submit the interaction before jumping to the next slide on second attempt but it still isn't adding the score. No luck, I'm afraid.
I investigated a little further with some more tests and found that changing the state of a drop item to 'drop correct' and then submitting the interaction does not mark the question as correct and therefore does not add the mark to the results. Unless there is a way to make the drop item land on the drop target before submitting (which to my knowledge isn't possible?) I don't think drag and drop items can be used in a quiz of this nature while maintaining a correct score on any attempt other than the first.
Of course - if you wanted to add a few more triggers and variables - scoring could be done manually rather than using the default Results.ScorePoints and it would then probably be possible to use this method. Unfortunately, the project I'm working on requires Results.ScorePoints so I might have to cut this kind of interactivity out and replace with multiple choice questions (such a shame!).
Thanks so much for all your help guys. Even though I couldn't quite get the result I wanted, it has definitely helped me a lot! Much appreciated.
I did add in a results slide to my example, and it was scored correctly - so it's likely more a set up within the file you have that isn't working correctly or allowing the score to be set.
It sounds like that you've got a method that will work for you though - so great to continue with that and if you need anything else please let us know.
These have all been very helpful. I need to make my users go through the entire quiz once without feedback, then retake any missed questions. It generally works, but I cannot make the retry questions work if they are multiple answer. Any suggestions?
Were you ever able to find a solution to your issue? I'm encountering a similar issue. Mine is that even when all questions have been answered correctly, the success slide does not show. I do have a trigger, with conditions telling it to show the success slide. I wonder if it has anything to do with limiting the number of times a quiz is tried. I did not set any limitations.
I finally found a solution, but it’s very complicated, using True/False variables to record whether or not a question has been answered correctly. Here is how I did it:
· First scene – All questions, no feedback layers, set Q#Correct to True if answered correctly,
o 1st results slide contains a “Retry” button, which goes to 2nd scene; skip to next slide if all questions are correct
· Second scene – Repeat all the questions, this time with feedback layers; skip question if Q#Correct = True
o 2nd results slide also contains a “Retry” button, which returns to 2nd scene, slide 1; skip to next slide if user met passing criteria
· Third results slide – combining results of the other two results slides
Hi, hoping you can help me figure out an issue I'm coming across with only retaking incorrect ly answered questions. I have a True/False variable setup on each question and the variable only changes to True if the state of the correct radio button is 'selected'. Then the question will be skipped upon second attempt if that variable is True. The issue is that if my user can click on the correct radio button but then deselect it and choose another radio button to submit, because the correct radio button was initially selected, it still marks the varialbe as True. So the user initally clicked on the right answer but changed their mind before submitting. I'd like to set my variable to only be True if the user actually submits with the correct radio button selected. Hope I've explained this clearly. Thank you.
Ahh, think i've sorted it. I can create a custom submit button where the variable will only be set to true when the user clicks the button AND the correct radio button is selected. Going to test this now but I think it'll work. I'll post another quick reply to advise.
For anyone that's interested in how to get this to work, including not having the correctly answered questions flicker on the screen as they skip, this is what I did:
1. Create a custom T/F variable, initially set as FALSE. Let's call it Q1 2. Create a white shape over the entire question page, ensure it's brought to front of the page but set it initially as hidden. Let's call it Shape1 3. in this example there are three possible answers, Radio button 1,2 and 3. Radio button 1 is the correct answer. 4. Create a custom submit button, let's call it Sub1. And create these triggers in this order: Under Slide Triggers a) Change state of Shape1 to Normal if Q1 = TRUE b) Change state of Radio Button 1 to Selected if Q1 = TRUE c) Jump to next slide if Q1 = TRUE Under Sub1 (the submit button) d) Set Q1 to TRUE when the user clicks IF Radio Button 1 is equal to Selected e) Submit interaction Multiple Choice when the user clicks.
WIth this you'll end up skipping correct answers upon Quiz second attempt and avoid the screen flickering as it skips past the correctly answered questions.
I know this is an old thread but I am having issues with doing this with my storyline quiz at the moment. I was able to add all the variables and get it perfect, my only problem is any time they retry the quiz just taking the questions they missed as designed, then the new results slide is scoring just those questions instead of adding the correct answers to the already correct answers scored (hope this makes sense). Can you please help me?
Hi Elise! When you set up the logic to skip the correct questions, do you also add logic to mark them with the correct answer? This trigger should happen first, then you can add the trigger to submit and skip to the next slide.
I did compare all my triggers so Jeanette's video she posted for Jackie. I have every trigger she has on all slides. The result slide matches hers as well BUT I don't have the buttons at the end changing state, just Retry Quiz, and the user can retry as much as they want. I just don't know why the quiz won't calculate the total grade.
Thanks for assisting here Anne :) I just wanted to pop in and make sure you were aware that responding to the forums via e-mail that your signature attaches. You are welcome to pop in and edit if needed.
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Hi Cassandra,
I've tested this again, and the file I sent seems to be working so that if you retry the quiz and bypass the drag and drop question, it still scores correctly (it's being marked as correct even when you skip over it). Let me know if you see something different!
Hi Cassandra,
Here is a really simple sample file of how you can use the "dropped correct" state to submit an interaction. This would be if you don't want the user to click the submit button as a way to submit the interaction.
Hi Anne,
Sorry, I forgot to mention that the retry button was pointing to the 'Question 1' slide (which is actually question 2 since the drag and drop question was added in before it) so it would skip past the drag and drop regardless of the answer submitted. I adjusted this to go to the drag and drop question instead (first quiz question) and I got the same results as my own attempt where: if answered correctly on first attempt, it would skip past the question but not add the score to the second attempt.
Ashley, thanks so much for the upload. I tried adding this trigger into Ashley's example to see if it would submit the interaction before jumping to the next slide on second attempt but it still isn't adding the score. No luck, I'm afraid.
I investigated a little further with some more tests and found that changing the state of a drop item to 'drop correct' and then submitting the interaction does not mark the question as correct and therefore does not add the mark to the results. Unless there is a way to make the drop item land on the drop target before submitting (which to my knowledge isn't possible?) I don't think drag and drop items can be used in a quiz of this nature while maintaining a correct score on any attempt other than the first.
Of course - if you wanted to add a few more triggers and variables - scoring could be done manually rather than using the default Results.ScorePoints and it would then probably be possible to use this method. Unfortunately, the project I'm working on requires Results.ScorePoints so I might have to cut this kind of interactivity out and replace with multiple choice questions (such a shame!).
Thanks so much for all your help guys. Even though I couldn't quite get the result I wanted, it has definitely helped me a lot! Much appreciated.
Hi Cassandra,
I did add in a results slide to my example, and it was scored correctly - so it's likely more a set up within the file you have that isn't working correctly or allowing the score to be set.
It sounds like that you've got a method that will work for you though - so great to continue with that and if you need anything else please let us know.
These have all been very helpful. I need to make my users go through the entire quiz once without feedback, then retake any missed questions. It generally works, but I cannot make the retry questions work if they are multiple answer. Any suggestions?
Hi Matthew! I'm not familiar with an issue related to this, would you be able to share you .quiz file so that I could take a look?
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Hi,
Were you ever able to find a solution to your issue? I'm encountering a similar issue. Mine is that even when all questions have been answered correctly, the success slide does not show. I do have a trigger, with conditions telling it to show the success slide. I wonder if it has anything to do with limiting the number of times a quiz is tried. I did not set any limitations.
I finally found a solution, but it’s very complicated, using True/False variables to record whether or not a question has been answered correctly. Here is how I did it:
· First scene – All questions, no feedback layers, set Q#Correct to True if answered correctly,
o 1st results slide contains a “Retry” button, which goes to 2nd scene; skip to next slide if all questions are correct
· Second scene – Repeat all the questions, this time with feedback layers; skip question if Q#Correct = True
o 2nd results slide also contains a “Retry” button, which returns to 2nd scene, slide 1; skip to next slide if user met passing criteria
· Third results slide – combining results of the other two results slides
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Matthew
Thanks for such a prompt response!
Super fast response Matthew! Thanks for popping back in to assist M here :)
No problem! Whenever I get my license (I’m waiting for budget approval), I’ll pop back and provide a detailed explanation on the site.
Regards,
Matthew
Sounds great Matthew!
Hi, hoping you can help me figure out an issue I'm coming across with only retaking incorrect ly answered questions. I have a True/False variable setup on each question and the variable only changes to True if the state of the correct radio button is 'selected'. Then the question will be skipped upon second attempt if that variable is True. The issue is that if my user can click on the correct radio button but then deselect it and choose another radio button to submit, because the correct radio button was initially selected, it still marks the varialbe as True. So the user initally clicked on the right answer but changed their mind before submitting. I'd like to set my variable to only be True if the user actually submits with the correct radio button selected. Hope I've explained this clearly. Thank you.
Ahh, think i've sorted it. I can create a custom submit button where the variable will only be set to true when the user clicks the button AND the correct radio button is selected. Going to test this now but I think it'll work. I'll post another quick reply to advise.
Thanks for the update Rodney :)
Yep, using a custom submit button worked.
For anyone that's interested in how to get this to work, including not having the correctly answered questions flicker on the screen as they skip, this is what I did:
1. Create a custom T/F variable, initially set as FALSE. Let's call it Q1
2. Create a white shape over the entire question page, ensure it's brought to front of the page but set it initially as hidden. Let's call it Shape1
3. in this example there are three possible answers, Radio button 1,2 and 3. Radio button 1 is the correct answer.
4. Create a custom submit button, let's call it Sub1.
And create these triggers in this order:
Under Slide Triggers
a) Change state of Shape1 to Normal if Q1 = TRUE
b) Change state of Radio Button 1 to Selected if Q1 = TRUE
c) Jump to next slide if Q1 = TRUE
Under Sub1 (the submit button)
d) Set Q1 to TRUE when the user clicks IF Radio Button 1 is equal to Selected
e) Submit interaction Multiple Choice when the user clicks.
WIth this you'll end up skipping correct answers upon Quiz second attempt and avoid the screen flickering as it skips past the correctly answered questions.
I hope this helps.
Glad you got this sorted Rodney and thank you for sharing such detailed information on how you were able to do so.
Jeanette,
I know this is an old thread but I am having issues with doing this with my storyline quiz at the moment. I was able to add all the variables and get it perfect, my only problem is any time they retry the quiz just taking the questions they missed as designed, then the new results slide is scoring just those questions instead of adding the correct answers to the already correct answers scored (hope this makes sense). Can you please help me?
SOS!
Thank you,
Elise
Hi Elise! When you set up the logic to skip the correct questions, do you also add logic to mark them with the correct answer? This trigger should happen first, then you can add the trigger to submit and skip to the next slide.
I did compare all my triggers so Jeanette's video she posted for Jackie. I have every trigger she has on all slides. The result slide matches hers as well BUT I don't have the buttons at the end changing state, just Retry Quiz, and the user can retry as much as they want. I just don't know why the quiz won't calculate the total grade.
I'm happy to check out the file if you post it! Maybe me or someone else on this thread can see what's happening.
Thanks for assisting here Anne :) I just wanted to pop in and make sure you were aware that responding to the forums via e-mail that your signature attaches. You are welcome to pop in and edit if needed.
Thanks, Leslie! :-)
No worries :)
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