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Christie Pollick

Hi, Íde -- Thanks so much for reaching out with your question! As far as assigning point values, you may want to check out this article on Text Entry, and perhaps you may want to share your file to better illustrate what you have in mind. Please use the ADD ATTACHMENT button in the bottom left corner of the reply box here in the thread and you can browse/upload from there. 

You are also welcome to post your question over in our design-related Building Better Courses forum, as well. :)

Íde O'Neill

Hi Christie

I have attached the slide as you suggested.  I wonder if there is some way of assigning a numeric value to each letter submitted by the learner.  As you can see, the question is worth 3 marks if each of the 6 letters is entered correctly.  However, the learner can still gain marks, albeit not the full 3, if some of the letters are entered.

I have been trying to create a variable that might address the issue but without success.

Many thanks for your help on this one!

Íde O'Neill

Hi Christie

The tutorial you mention is one with which I am familiar but it does not provide me with an answer as I need to assign a value to each letter rather than offer the learner a number of optional answers which have a pre-defined value.

I did, however, look at this tutorial http://bit.ly/1PIVEKg but am not getting the desired outcome. Perhaps, you could review my efforts?

Many thanks

Christie Pollick

Hi, Ide -- So sorry to hear the info provided has not done the trick for what you need, but I would be happy to take a look at the file you have provided tomorrow and let you know my findings.

I did also want to mention your are welcome to work directly with our 24-hour Support Engineers immediately by using this form. Please let me know if you've opted to submit a case, and I will be certain to follow along with their progress. :)

Christie Pollick

Hi, Ide -- thanks so much for sharing your file! Unfortunately, beyond the suggestions I have offered, I am not aware of a way for you to create the desired effect of assigning a point value to each letter. I will need to defer to the community, and again, you are always welcome to reach out for design assistance over here in our BBC forum

Wendy Farmer

Hi Ide

I have updated your sample file to what I think you are after.  If you look at the form view of the quiz slide I have assigned 2 marks for a correct answer and 1 mark for an incorrect answer.  There are two offstage buttons called correct and incorrect which are what triggers the correct / incorrect layers to appear.

Hope this helps you - shout out if you want to ask anymore questions.

You'll just need to change the surname letters I used BARKER as the sample.

Íde O'Neill

Hi Wendy

thank you so much for the solution offered in the BARKER Slide.  I have made a few adjustments to accommodate my exam requirements and all goes well until I click 'Submit'.

In the attached file, can you advise as to why I am getting an 'Invalid Answer' error message?

Thanks to you and to Christie for your help in this regard.

Wendy Farmer

Hi Ide

I have updated your SL1 file.

1. The correct/incorrect buttons that sit off stage need to be on the baselayer )not on a slide layer) and then added into the form view so that SL knows what the correct answer is.

2. The correct variables need to be used for each trigger  - all updated.

3. Order of triggers very important - so the change of state to selected for the correct/incorrect button need to be before the 'submit interaction' button

I have tested and the correct/incorrect layers are displaying as above images show.

Good luck.

 

 

 

Íde O'Neill

Hi Wendy

My apologies for the delay in responding to you.  I am now using Storyline 2 and have downloaded the updated file.  Unfortunately, I find that the following error message is appearing

Could this have anything to do with the change to SL2?  Also, when I use the Tab key to move from box to box, it jumps to the 'Correct' then Incorrect' areas before returning to box no 1.

I really appreciate your time and effort on this one, Wendy.  Sorry to be a bother. :-(

Wendy Farmer

 

Hi Ide

Had a quick look and your 'choice' variable is displaying as a text variable not a number variable even though it is setup as a number which is why it's not calculating the score. If you put the variable references onto the screen its easy to see what is and isn't working.

You'll need to create a new choice number variable and replace it in all the triggers

Go to the  Home Tab  > Tab order option you can do custom tab order and add, remove, re-order how you want the objects to appear when you tab

See attached screenshots and let me know if you still have issues once you make the choice

Íde O'Neill

Hi Wendy

I have managed to update the file to register the correct numerical value assigned to each text entry.  However, I cannot figure out a way to reset the text entry values in order to allow the learner to re-attempt the question.  (I have hidden the Counter on the Timeline)

I discovered how to reset the tab order on the slide but I cannot access the 'Save' button because the Tab Order' window extends onto the Task Bar and is inaccessible.  (Thought: maybe I could alter the screen resolution?)

Any help would be much appreciated.  I think we are getting nearer to success! :-)

P.S. I have just seen your earlier post so I will review the data asap.  Thanks again, Wendy.

Wendy Farmer

Hi Ide

are you now using a custom submit button and not the default?

Send me a screenshot of your tab order and I'll see if I can update for you

Also you have a trigger to resume timeline on the 'Try again' button when the user clicks but this is offstage and they'll never see it to click it.

Íde O'Neill

Hi Wendy

I found that by using the default 'Submit' button I was getting the 'Invalid Answer' error message.  So, by creating a customized version, I was able to set up a relevant trigger to control the outcome.

I still cannot figure out a way to reset the slide (other than a message to click on the 'Replay' button) in order that the text values are removed from the text entry boxes.  The counter is set to return to 0 and is working.

The Tab Order issue is noted in the image below.  I cannot access the Save or Cancel buttons despite the screen resolution being set at the recommended 1366*768.

Any ideas would be very helpful, Wendy.  Thanks again.

 

Íde O'Neill

Hi Wendy

if you can devise some method that allows the in-built mechanism to work, I will give you a virtual hug! (lol)

You are so good to stick with this.  I'm going to give it another go later on and see if I can come up with something, but I feel your experience holds the key.

Many, many thanks, Wendy.

Wendy Farmer

Hi Ide

see if this works for you.

I have used the default Submit button and hidden your custom one on the timeline. I have added triggers to select the correct or incorrect button on the base layer when the user clicks submit - these triggers need to be before the 'submit interaction' trigger.

I have added triggers to the try again layer to set the text entry boxes (all 6) to blank when the user clicks the try again button.

Hope this is what you are after...let me know how you go.

I can't see the tab order you need - if you send through a full screenshot of how you want them I'll try and save it for you.

Íde O'Neill

Wendy! 

You are an absolute gem and I am so grateful to you for resolving this issue!  You are, indeed, so worthy of the title 'Hero'.

I hope my virtual hug reaches you across cyberspace and enfolds you in a huge embrace.  I will now endeavour to continue on with my project without bothering you again (unless I get stuck!)

I have learned so much in the last few weeks - nothing like going straight in at the deep end, eh?! It has certainly been a steep learning curve for a newbie, but I have no doubt it will stand me in good stead.

The Tab Order issue was easily resolved by adjusting the Properties of the Task Bar (r-click) and selecting the Auto-Hide checkbox.  All systems are go.

I will be forever grateful...