Triggers in a menu

Dec 03, 2017

Hello,

Hopefully someone can help me with the next issue. I have built an e-learning module in which i made a kind of simulation of a software program. On each page you see a full-screen image of the software program. A coach gives you an assignment. If you click correct in the image, you will go to the next screen. Do you click wrong? Than you will receive an extra hint from the coach and you can try again. On each page you see a menu. When you open the menu, you can browse through the e-learningmodule using the arrows or you can go to the main menu. You also see the sub steps in this menu. You can click on a sub step to jump quickly to a part in the e-learningmodule. If you complete a sub step, the step gets a checkmark. 

Each page consists of 5 layers:

1. Base layer: Here i put the fullscreen image of the software program.
2. Instruction layer menu closed: The coach gives an instruction, the menu is closed. 
3. Instruction layer menu open: The coach gives an instruction, the menu is open. 
4. Feedback if you click wrong menu closed: Coach gives extra input, the menu is closed. 
5. Feedback if you click wrong menu open: Coach gives extra input, the menu is closed. 

The menu works well with triggers and variables. What is the problem?

ISSUE 1:

I define the back and further arrows with triggers to the previous and next slide. But the order of the slides sometimes changes inexplicably. As a result, the next and previous arrows no longer works properly and jumps illogocally (not linearly) through the module. Is there a way to keep the order of the pages linear when building the scene? Despite where the triggers refer to?

ISSUE 2:
Building the menu is very complex and time-consuming. That's why i tried to build the menu in a masterslide. But here i get the same issue with the next and previous arrows. Another issues is that the menu will be placed under the fullscreen printscreen in the base layer. We managed to get the menu on top, but than the triggers no longer work correct. Is there a way to put the menu with triggers always on top of everything if you use the masterslide? And how can i manage the triggers works correct with a masterslide?

Hope my question is clear enough and that someone can help me with these issues. 

Greetings Vanessa

 

 

7 Replies
Joanne Chen

Hi Vanessa,

If you use the trigger "jump to previous slide", it will jump back to the slide where just left. So if a user use menu to jump, let's say, from p1 to p4, and click on previous button, it will lead the user back to p1 not the pre page 3.  And If I read your post correctly, you will like the page turn in order when clicking the next/pre button, right? ( p1→p2→p3→p4, →p4→p3→p2→p1)

If that's what you mean, you may refer to the attached file I created. That shall solve both the issues. Let me know if this is what you want and I would provide further explanation if you need.

Vanessa Vrijken

Hi Joanne,

Thank you for your explanation and time. Unfortunately, my question has only been partially answered. I tried to put my menu in your example. A few issues that not go well:

1. The menu in the master slide disappears behind the layers. And we need the layers for the introduction text and the feedback when the user clicks wrong. Is there a possibility to put these layers behind the menu? 

2. If issue 1 is solved i like to know how you created the page numbering automatically. 

3. If issue 1 is solved i also like to know what the do with the previous button on the first page. This button needs to refer to the main menu and that is never the previous page. 

4. The order of the pages still isn't logically. If i click on page 1 on the button 3 and than on page 3 on the button 'previous', i go to page 1 instead of page 2. 

Hopefully you can help me with this again. Thank you!

Joanne Chen

Hi Vanessa,

  1. You have set your layer properties as "Hide other layers" in your layers of the first slide, that's why you cannot see the menu in the first slide.
  2. I created a variable called "page". Use triggers to add 1 when clicking next BTN on the condition page<4, subtract 1 when clicking pre BTN on the condition page>1. It will only goes wrong if you set a trigger to jump to prvious page, so instead I set four triggers to tell exactly where to go when clicking pre arrow as you can see below. Be noticed, you need to set the order of triggers correctly, having the correct variable first then jump to the page refer to.
  3. Change state of the pre/next BTN base on the variable page, so that users won't be able to click on the  pre/next BTN in the first/last page.
  4. Please do watch for the orders of triggers.

I also attached a revised story file to your example. Hope this will help.

 

 

Vanessa Vrijken

Hi Joanne,

Thank you so much again for your help! I think i'm almost there. Attached a new file. There are still 3 issues i can not solve.  Hopefully you can help me again with this. 

Issue 1:

On the second page (1e page of chapter 1), you get an instruction from the coach. If you click wrong you get feedback from the coach (different layer). If you click right, you go to the next page. But if i click on the menu button (on the text menu), the menu opens correctly but than i also get the wrong feedback, that's not correct. How can i fix this?   

Issue 2:
Still a problem with the page numbering. I want the page numbering in the menu (where now is the title text and page numbering). I have added a final and first page. The previous arrow on the first page need te be invisible. The next arrow on the last page need to be invisible as well. I have added on the first page a next button and on the last page an button to the course menu. But on more pages the arrows are now invisible.

I also added more pages. A subject/chapter button in the menu is not always equal to 1 page. All chapters have several pages. The button in the menu needs to refer to the first page of the concerning chapter. How can i do this? I don;t understand this. Is it necessary to create a variable for each page? 

Issue 3:

The chapter/subject buttons in the menu needs a 'checkmark' (state done) if you have visited all pages from that subject / in that chapter. And this button needs to have also a special state for if you are in the relevant chapter. For example you are on page 14, this is the third page of a chapter. This chapter needs a state so you can see that you are in this chapter. If you visited all pages in this chapter, there needs to be a done stat button. 

I really hope you can help me fix this menu for our courses. Thank you so much again.

 

Greetings Vanessa

Joanne Chen

Hi Vanessa,

Issue 1:

You can set triggers to show layer "Feedback wrong" when clicking on the wrong objects. (You can see how I did it in the new attached)

Issue 2:

  • Put your reference variables to where you want.
  • If you have multiple ways to turn pages, you could have either ways to set a correct page number: 
    1. Use tirggers to add/subtract page number in you next/pre BTN like what I did. And adjust variables in every BTN which turns page.
    2. Adjust variable of page number in each page slide when timeline starts the slide.
  • You can change state of Pre/Next BTN to disable when variable page equal to the first/last page number.
  • If you have multiple chapters and each chapter has multiple pages, you can create differnt page variables for different chapters, for example, "Ch1Page" for chapter1 and "Ch2Page" for chapter 2.... Also, you can use different master slides for different chapters by duplicating master slide you use for chapter 1 and that will make your work easier when creating mutiple chapters. 

 Issue 3:

I do not get what you want here, and I am a little confused about how you like your pages shown. For example, if chapter1 has 4 pages and chapter2 has 3 pages, which one do you want your page numbered and shown in the screen?

A: numbering the pages 1/7 - 7/7 for chapter1&2 in order

B: numbering the pages 1/4- 4/4 for chapter1 and also numbering 1/3 - 3/3 for chapter2

And what the numbering buttons on the menu bar stand for?

As to the checkmark, you can mark the chapter with different colors or add a widget aside by setting triggers to change states. 

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