We are currently trying out Cornerstone, Saba, SumTotal, and MindFlash...I am currently able to play around in MindFlash and it seems very user friendly for admins and learners alike. It seems to have all of the features of other LMS platforms. The only possible con at the monent is that you are not able to build a customized front page, but you can add your company logo. I have heard amazning things about Cornerstone - the only con I have heard is their pricing.
we use JoomlaLMS. Our elearning website is built on Joomla! and we were searching for a learning management system that would integrate well with CMS. Moodle was one of options, but we chose JoomlaLMS as the number of features available for the price we had to pay was impressive. Plus, support!
I adopted Success Factors Plateau stepping into my role as the primary adminstrator/developer at my company. We utilize the Learning Management and Performance Management systems primarily, but are interested in expanding to Talent Management and Succession Progression. Can't say Plateau is the easiest solution to work with and most of my users hate it, citing poor user friendliness and a lack of reliability when it comes to module completions recording properly.
I'm currently talking to Saba about their platform at the reccomendation of a friend who's been using Saba for several months now. Just had a web demo with them and I'm really in love with their streamlined UI and easy self service features.
I’m not really sure this is the right topic but it seems pretty close so here goes. This thread seems to have a life of its own!
I’ve been training for about 20 years writing courses for about 4 years (ish) and Storyline for about a month - and I have to say I’m delighted with it. Anyway I’m in the process of setting up my own business and I have been commissioned by one company to write 5, maybe more, courses and be paid an annual retainer to keep them up to date and make any requested amendments. So the basic deal is, I write them and they host them on their own server. All well and good.
However other potential customers would like me to host the courses on my own website rather than their servers and, via an LMS, allow their staff to access them. So the structure would be:
I host all the courses on my website.
I have an LMS on my site with different users and administrators.
So if my first customer decides they want me to host the 5 courses they have around 4,000 staff all of whom would need registering.
Let’s say my next customer wants the same. So now I need to host 2 entirely different customers each with (for example) 4,000 staff (i.e. 8,000 users).
And so it goes on. Customers will want to be able to monitor what their staff do and get reports/statistics, etc.
Many companies selling e-learning on an annual licence basis offer this service. Can I set this up with any LMS that’s out there or am I biting off more than I can chew? Bearing in mind I’m just starting up, the sort of thing I’m looking for might require me to sell my house to fund it.
We have just started using Moodle 2.6 (upgraded from 1.9) and are very pleased with it. Our main driver for choosing Moodle was cost. Moodle 2.6 makes it much easier to customise the design than previous versions and also gives us most of the features we require. However, we are experiencing issues with Storyline content not displaying properly on iPads and other mobile devices.
I have experience with Blackboard, Moodle and Kenexa (formerly Outstart Evolution).
My current project uses OpenText Learnflex (formerly Operitel Learnflex). For the most part, it seem easily configurable (user hierarchy, etc.). But I'd love to pick someone's brain about course linkage. Learnflex looks to have several options for course organization (curriculum groups, learning tracks, etc.). We'd like to have a master course list (100+) courses and several curriculums. Courses can appear in one or all curriculums. Some curriculums will have a pre/post tests. What's my best bet for course organization?
I just saw this thread in the popular conversations, so I thought I'd chime in as well. Apologies in advance for duplicating any information in the last 8 pages of posts! (Everyone in these forums is awesome!)
We started with the Articulate Online solution as we primarily just served one specific audience (external customers), without the need for additional features and reporting. Now we are currently using Mindflash for our training content to serve multiple learners (clients/customers, partners, and internal employees).
This solution includes the features and delivery mechanism we were looking for and quickly with the right price point. It was heavily driven by the type of content we were looking to provide to each audience. This helps us upload a lot of content fast, in a variety of ways (ppt, video, SCORM from Storyline or Captivate, pdf, even YouTube).
I really think the LMS decision depends on what you are looking to get out of your "tool" or system. There are quite a few options out there, and I even think your needs may change over time, or vary depending on the size of your company.
We are currently using Absorb, and are currently looking to replace it. Let me know if you want some insight in to the systems pros and cons.
In our search for a new LMS we have looked at
SumTotal - rather robust, and nice features
Taleo/Learn - again robust, but we felt very coumbersome and not easy to use
Cornerstone - so far our top choice, very user friendly, easy to customize and plenty of features
Saba - we are demoing next week
We just signed with Cornerstone. Leaving EKP/NetDimensions.
Our top two choices were between Cornerstone and Saba. We felt that both were excellent prodcuts and fairly equal in all major features. We have a need for using the exam/testing engine that comes as part of the LMS and doen't rely on the elearning authoring tool. Cornerstone had the clear advantage on this one point. Also, Cornerstone price was better. But it was a very close decision between the two.
Hi,
I know this is an older post but we need a built in exam engine also. Does Saba not have its own internal tool? Can you only build tests with 3rd party authoring tools?
I'm sorry but I don't remember the details any more. At the time they didn't have what we needed for creating exams. But enough time has passed that it may be different now.
We've build our LMS to work particularly well with Articulate, mostly because that is how we like to author courses, and it's also where our customer's find the greatest success.
We typically work with customers ranging in size from 10 people, to about 5,000 people. Oh, we're also looking for another developer!
It's been more than 5 years I am working on different Learning Management Systems and what I observed is that, it's totally depends on the place you working in, whether it's an education sector or corporate. Under my experience, I got a chance to work with both of them where both sectors were looking for a cost effective but fully featured LMS.
For education sector, I normally suggest eFront Learning Management System. The platform is designed for schools, colleges and universities. It doesn't mean that you can't implement in your company but their themes are more likely for schools. I love the SCORM feature in it and it's highly effective for articulate products. Efront is capable to run all SCORM content publish from Articulate engage and storyline.
I also used Blackboard Learn but SCORM compatibility is not commendable. I didn't heard good feedbacks coming from our teachers.
For Corporate sector, I suggest Moodle 2.x because you shall have an ability to customize your LMS the way you want or you can go for Tetora LMS, an enhance version of Moodle with good support.
My company is just starting their move to WBT training, Storyline is their first step into this world. Wondering if anyone knows how good these "free" LMS's are for a corporate world. I am only looking for tracking an reporting, doing all the development in Storyline. Thoughts?
I consulted with a large educational publishing company who went for Digital Chalk. http://www.digitalchalk.com/
Seemed to work really well, was stable on iOS as iOS would allow and support seemed top notch.
Having said that, I'm currently building an LMS from scratch in Moodle which serves Storyline SCORM's that I had to go into the code to get it display correctly on iPad. Got there eventually and it works really well now. Currently adding digital portfolio repository and extra reporting.
I went for Moodle in this case because of cost and the open source nature of the system.
Great suggestion. We currently have ForceTen but are in the process of looking into adapting a new LMS. Would you mind sharing what 17 LMS you vetted and what their price ranges were? Also, what where your requirements that TaleoLearn was able to meet?
It's been couple of years now, and the players have changed a lot (not that I could remember them all anyway), but we looked at vendors like IBM, Sumtotal, Saba, Plateau, and, of course, Learn.com along with some others that were smaller or more specialized like PureSafety. We looked at vendors we already had other business accounts with and those in the Gartner magic quadrant at the time.
We started with over 400 requirements and boiled them down to ask for demos on the top 75-80 tasks that would best showcase the system's ability to meet our need. We had each vendor demo those tasks in the same order for the afected users and asked the users to rate what they saw 1-5 on 2 dimensions:
1) How important is this to me and 2) how well did this vendor perform
I won't subject you to the full list, but here are the user groups we identified and a sampling of what we asked them to do for each.
Importance
Rating
Role
Functionality / Scenario
Please Rate 1-5
Please Rate 1-5
1 = Of some interest
1 = Unsatisfactory
5 = Necessary
5 = Superior
End User
Demonstrate the self-enrollment process
Log in as a new user of the system / as a temporary service provider / as an existing user of the system
Go to the help menu
Follow the steps in the event the end user needs to ask a question
Demonstrate how a user would reset his/her password
Manager/Supervisor
Enroll an employee in a specific course
Enroll a group of employees in a specific course
Approve/Deny request for an employee's enrollment in a class.
Registrar
Assign a course to a group of employees in a specific job category
Track an employee's course completion
Run a "gap analysis" report showing all employees who have unmet requirements.
A training session is assigned to all employees. One week later, 120 new employees are hired. Demonstrate how they would be enrolled (if not automatic)
Administrator
Set up an email notification/escalation process when a course is scheduled, when a course is overdue, when a course is failed
Design a report to view course completion by different variables, such as company-wide, location, job title, etc.
Set up a learning plan for all employees in a specific job title (e.g. Analysts must have met requirements for Excel, Access, etc.)
Course Developer
Upload an existing PowerPoint presentation and a word document (content to be provided prior to demo .Make edits to it such as deleting/adding slides and adding T/F question within presentation.)
Upload AICC/SCORM courseware and customize.
"Publish" the course to the system.
Set the criteria for successful completion of a course.
Marty, I would love to see your compete list. We just are finishing the RFI process. Narrowed down to 8 or so vendors for demos and RFPs. I want to also drive the demonstrations to see exactly what the various stakeholders need to see. You chart would be invaluable.
My strength is more on the design side rather than the technical side (although I am learning so I can't claim to be an expert regarding technical issues but I use Learn Upon and for ease of use I can thoroughly recommend it. On the few occasions where I have needed technical support (usually due to a fault at my end) the technical support were straight onto it. Haven't had any problems or complaints from customers
I didn't see any mention of Totara LMS. It is a great enhancement of Moodle for use in the business world. If you go with a Totara partner, you get a customized level of service based on your needs. The administrative side of Moodle used to frustrate me until I found out about these partnering services! You'll still want a learning content software like Articulate to work hand in hand with the LMS.
My previous employer used Canvas and I liked it alot. It has a great reporting system, easy to navigate, and connects with many external programs such as: Youtube, Eyejot, Google docs, etc.
We went with Docebo. Price was an issue with us, but not the only factor. We knocked a couple off the list because they used languages that out IT department does not support. The things we like about Docebo:
- Cost
- More corporate look than others
- SCORM
- Easy to modify for our needs
- Works well with Articulate
- Easy for Training to modify/manipulate with little IT support
- Strong reporting features
- Prints certificates
- Clean and uncluttered look
- Easy navigation for infrequent users
- Good support network
We looked at over 50 LMSs and Docebo and Moodle were our final two. We chose Docebo because of ease of use, clean look, and ability to modify it with less help from IT.
We will be reviewing LMS version in 2015. Thanks for the tip. How many people in your org? Does it integrate with MS Active Directory? Curious on which others you reviewed.
We use DOTS. Which has been sufficient. As we're Australian based, it appeared to be the most adaptable and capable LMS when we acquired it about 6-7 years ago. It works fine with Articulate. This has been an interesting read and food for thought.
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We use EDU 2.0, it has a lot of great features including e-commerce and it looks so amazing!
We are currently trying out Cornerstone, Saba, SumTotal, and MindFlash...I am currently able to play around in MindFlash and it seems very user friendly for admins and learners alike. It seems to have all of the features of other LMS platforms. The only possible con at the monent is that you are not able to build a customized front page, but you can add your company logo. I have heard amazning things about Cornerstone - the only con I have heard is their pricing.
Thanks,
Dana
we use JoomlaLMS. Our elearning website is built on Joomla! and we were searching for a learning management system that would integrate well with CMS. Moodle was one of options, but we chose JoomlaLMS as the number of features available for the price we had to pay was impressive. Plus, support!
I heard that LearnDash is good too.
I adopted Success Factors Plateau stepping into my role as the primary adminstrator/developer at my company. We utilize the Learning Management and Performance Management systems primarily, but are interested in expanding to Talent Management and Succession Progression. Can't say Plateau is the easiest solution to work with and most of my users hate it, citing poor user friendliness and a lack of reliability when it comes to module completions recording properly.
I'm currently talking to Saba about their platform at the reccomendation of a friend who's been using Saba for several months now. Just had a web demo with them and I'm really in love with their streamlined UI and easy self service features.
I’m not really sure this is the right topic but it seems pretty close so here goes. This thread seems to have a life of its own!
Hi we work with a number of training companies who work with 'their' clients offering the various solutions you offer above.
Please contact me for an on-line demo and I can show you how .
Parul .
We have just started using Moodle 2.6 (upgraded from 1.9) and are very pleased with it. Our main driver for choosing Moodle was cost. Moodle 2.6 makes it much easier to customise the design than previous versions and also gives us most of the features we require. However, we are experiencing issues with Storyline content not displaying properly on iPads and other mobile devices.
This is a great thread!
I have experience with Blackboard, Moodle and Kenexa (formerly Outstart Evolution).
My current project uses OpenText Learnflex (formerly Operitel Learnflex). For the most part, it seem easily configurable (user hierarchy, etc.). But I'd love to pick someone's brain about course linkage. Learnflex looks to have several options for course organization (curriculum groups, learning tracks, etc.). We'd like to have a master course list (100+) courses and several curriculums. Courses can appear in one or all curriculums. Some curriculums will have a pre/post tests. What's my best bet for course organization?
I just saw this thread in the popular conversations, so I thought I'd chime in as well. Apologies in advance for duplicating any information in the last 8 pages of posts! (Everyone in these forums is awesome!)
We started with the Articulate Online solution as we primarily just served one specific audience (external customers), without the need for additional features and reporting. Now we are currently using Mindflash for our training content to serve multiple learners (clients/customers, partners, and internal employees).
This solution includes the features and delivery mechanism we were looking for and quickly with the right price point. It was heavily driven by the type of content we were looking to provide to each audience. This helps us upload a lot of content fast, in a variety of ways (ppt, video, SCORM from Storyline or Captivate, pdf, even YouTube).
I really think the LMS decision depends on what you are looking to get out of your "tool" or system. There are quite a few options out there, and I even think your needs may change over time, or vary depending on the size of your company.
Hi,
I know this is an older post but we need a built in exam engine also. Does Saba not have its own internal tool? Can you only build tests with 3rd party authoring tools?
Thanks,
Tim
Tim,
I'm sorry but I don't remember the details any more. At the time they didn't have what we needed for creating exams. But enough time has passed that it may be different now.
We use DATS, because we built it. :P The LMS is our #1 attractor, but that is not all that we do.
www.GetDATS.com if you want to take a peek.
We've build our LMS to work particularly well with Articulate, mostly because that is how we like to author courses, and it's also where our customer's find the greatest success.
We typically work with customers ranging in size from 10 people, to about 5,000 people. Oh, we're also looking for another developer!
Articulate rocks!
I can be found at Scott@GetDATS.com if anybody wants to chat.
Hi,
It's been more than 5 years I am working on different Learning Management Systems and what I observed is that, it's totally depends on the place you working in, whether it's an education sector or corporate. Under my experience, I got a chance to work with both of them where both sectors were looking for a cost effective but fully featured LMS.
For education sector, I normally suggest eFront Learning Management System. The platform is designed for schools, colleges and universities. It doesn't mean that you can't implement in your company but their themes are more likely for schools. I love the SCORM feature in it and it's highly effective for articulate products. Efront is capable to run all SCORM content publish from Articulate engage and storyline.
I also used Blackboard Learn but SCORM compatibility is not commendable. I didn't heard good feedbacks coming from our teachers.
For Corporate sector, I suggest Moodle 2.x because you shall have an ability to customize your LMS the way you want or you can go for Tetora LMS, an enhance version of Moodle with good support.
Hope it helps.
Regards,
MH
When I worked as an ISD in the healthcare industry, I found HealthStream, Medelearn, and MC Strategies to be easy-to-use, reliable systems.
My company is just starting their move to WBT training, Storyline is their first step into this world. Wondering if anyone knows how good these "free" LMS's are for a corporate world. I am only looking for tracking an reporting, doing all the development in Storyline. Thoughts?
TRACCESS is one of he best for competency management. Moodle is great for course management.
I consulted with a large educational publishing company who went for Digital Chalk. http://www.digitalchalk.com/
Seemed to work really well, was stable on iOS as iOS would allow and support seemed top notch.
Having said that, I'm currently building an LMS from scratch in Moodle which serves Storyline SCORM's that I had to go into the code to get it display correctly on iPad. Got there eventually and it works really well now. Currently adding digital portfolio repository and extra reporting.
I went for Moodle in this case because of cost and the open source nature of the system.
Stephen
@Mischelle:
after a long Lms Selection I just chose Forma Lms , very powerful, simple, with a great reporting system which details Scorm tracking like no other.
I would suggest to give it a try. it was born last year from Docebo fork commercial / opensource... Great Lms .
Hi we use Kallidus as our LMS of choice, Has anyone heard of or used Xaurum?
My strength is more on the design side rather than the technical side (although I am learning
so I can't claim to be an expert regarding technical issues but I use Learn Upon and for ease of use I can thoroughly recommend it. On the few occasions where I have needed technical support (usually due to a fault at my end) the technical support were straight onto it. Haven't had any problems or complaints from customers
I didn't see any mention of Totara LMS. It is a great enhancement of Moodle for use in the business world. If you go with a Totara partner, you get a customized level of service based on your needs. The administrative side of Moodle used to frustrate me until I found out about these partnering services! You'll still want a learning content software like Articulate to work hand in hand with the LMS.
My previous employer used Canvas and I liked it alot. It has a great reporting system, easy to navigate, and connects with many external programs such as: Youtube, Eyejot, Google docs, etc.
We use DOTS. Which has been sufficient. As we're Australian based, it appeared to be the most adaptable and capable LMS when we acquired it about 6-7 years ago. It works fine with Articulate. This has been an interesting read and food for thought.